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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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What's up with the 295ft lbs of torque? BMW can't even break 300? They get a BIG FAIL on that one. I like them and I wanted one but that has now put them out of the picture for me.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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C63 AMG has some torque for ya
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 05:57 AM
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C63 AMG has some torque for ya
Among other things

However, it won't handle like the M3
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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get a flash and see how you feel about the 135i torque...and I wouldn't knock it till you drive it.
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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the new M3 is a sick car, but i agree with carlos... a 135i w/ some tasteful mods can be had for way cheaper than a new M3 and be even more fun to drive.. and a better performer.
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by meanmud
Among other things

However, it won't handle like the M3

lol that's why drifting was made
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Old Mar 29, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Brilliant Car

Working with BMWs everyday has it's perks. I have seen several E92s come through my service center since their arrival. Mostly just for delivery inspections, one for 2 rear tires. (The owner has run over some nails, $600/tire, ouch) Brilliant working of automotive technology.

Everything about this car has a feel like you could commute to work at 150+ mph every day and it would just be a normal thing. The steering is nice as long as you don't get the active steering. Not that active steering is bad but it just feels abnormal at low speeds when you make what seems to be a slight turn on the wheel but is amplified and the car turns super quick. All of the E92s I've driven have been 6 speeds. I'm not a huge fan of the smg trans. but I do understand it is nearly perfect now and is bulletproof.

The engine is so high strung yet can be driven at low speeds in higher gears and still be there when you need it. F1 technology is shown on initial start up when you press the ignition button the car ignites the air/fuel mixture at 2/3 of the compression stroke for the first 35 seconds to warm the catalytic converters up to operating temp. The car has to be driven for 1200 miles before the entire computer is reflashed and you can utilize the little 'm' button on the steering wheel to really get all that this car can do. You cannot program your own personal settings for 'm' mode without the I-drive. The I-drive is improved but still too many menus for my liking. The seats are amazing. The leather is ultra-soft to the touch and all of the buttons are laid out very nicely and everything is easily accessed by the driver. All of the controls are easily sorted out and not confusing at all.

Previous M3s were hot or cold when driving everyday. I personally loved each generation, but the interior lay outs were purpose serving and not as luxurious as the latest model. I say this is the most well thought out M series yet and I would suggest for any one to go to your local dealer to look at this car and test drive if you are serious about getting one. Fully loaded you can expect $69,xxx and that's the way I would have one.
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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I have been looking at the 135I and WOW that is great for the money. 300HP 300Ftlbs and 6 pistons calipers up front. All I would need is a ecu flash and be set. To be honest I never knew it was TT 3.0 until today. I might get one if money permits because it has many things the evo doesn't have yet the evo has many things that it does not have like 500WHP. LOL To get both you are way into the 60-80K range can you say GTR!
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowEVO21
get a flash and see how you feel about the 135i torque...and I wouldn't knock it till you drive it.
I wasn't knocking the 135I I was knocking the M3. The 135I looks like ONE HELL of a car. I want one!.... Let's see if the wife will allow it......
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Old Mar 30, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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I'm not a huge fan of the smg trans. but I do understand it is nearly perfect now and is bulletproof.

I personally loved each generation, but the interior lay outs were purpose serving and not as luxurious as the latest model.
No longer SMG - they copied the Audi DSG; Much improved!!!

The interior???? My '00 A4 Avant is still light years beyond it!! But this wouldn't stop me from buying one
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ThEHiTMaN
I wasn't knocking the 135I I was knocking the M3. The 135I looks like ONE HELL of a car. I want one!.... Let's see if the wife will allow it......
Ah my mistake. I love the 135i after I saw it in person and drove it - price is a bit steep though for what you get....too bad the cabin in the 335i is so plain and boring or i'd get that instead.
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TruBluIX
Working with BMWs everyday has it's perks. I have seen several E92s come through my service center since their arrival. Mostly just for delivery inspections, one for 2 rear tires. (The owner has run over some nails, $600/tire, ouch) Brilliant working of automotive technology.

Everything about this car has a feel like you could commute to work at 150+ mph every day and it would just be a normal thing. The steering is nice as long as you don't get the active steering. Not that active steering is bad but it just feels abnormal at low speeds when you make what seems to be a slight turn on the wheel but is amplified and the car turns super quick. All of the E92s I've driven have been 6 speeds. I'm not a huge fan of the smg trans. but I do understand it is nearly perfect now and is bulletproof.

The engine is so high strung yet can be driven at low speeds in higher gears and still be there when you need it. F1 technology is shown on initial start up when you press the ignition button the car ignites the air/fuel mixture at 2/3 of the compression stroke for the first 35 seconds to warm the catalytic converters up to operating temp. The car has to be driven for 1200 miles before the entire computer is reflashed and you can utilize the little 'm' button on the steering wheel to really get all that this car can do. You cannot program your own personal settings for 'm' mode without the I-drive. The I-drive is improved but still too many menus for my liking. The seats are amazing. The leather is ultra-soft to the touch and all of the buttons are laid out very nicely and everything is easily accessed by the driver. All of the controls are easily sorted out and not confusing at all.

Previous M3s were hot or cold when driving everyday. I personally loved each generation, but the interior lay outs were purpose serving and not as luxurious as the latest model. I say this is the most well thought out M series yet and I would suggest for any one to go to your local dealer to look at this car and test drive if you are serious about getting one. Fully loaded you can expect $69,xxx and that's the way I would have one.
I thought the active steering M servotronic or whatever was a non removeable standard feature? It's the one of the few things I don't like about the car.. Absolutely gorgeous in white and black
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by meanmud
No longer SMG - they copied the Audi DSG; Much improved!!!

The interior???? My '00 A4 Avant is still light years beyond it!! But this wouldn't stop me from buying one
The SMG has always been just a different variation of the DSG made by Audi.....
A computer assisted hydraulically operated twin clucth transmission which allows for manual shifts when desired and automatic shifts when required. Still uses a dry twin plate clutch system but no clutch pedal. The disenguagement and reenguagement are computer operated. The problem BMW has had is their power output could damage certain drivetrain components if the enguagement is too fast/harsh. So the programming was set to enguage the clutches slowly. Not a fun thing when you're trying to slam gears. Stronger drivetrain allows for much harder shifts and faster than standard trans. shifts.

Audis don't have enough power to worry about drivetrain damage.
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Old Apr 1, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TruBluIX
Audis don't have enough power to worry about drivetrain damage.
You are correct (Audi's with the DSG). I do believe that they're working on the R8 with the DSG; not sure of the engine - may be the 2.0T.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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Civic V8. Do not want.
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