Thinking of geting rid of the Evo
let me start by saying that i am by no means a fan of much that is american when it comes to automobiles, but that pontiac g8 seems like a great deal to me. lots of hp, good tuning potential and a huge warranty for less than $30k. i'm sure it's a comfortable daily driver too. i know that's way different than a civic, but i just think the car is a deal for not much more than the civic.
Keep the evo, invest a few thousand into a 90's Subaru Wagon, and drive that daily. Practical, cheap, reliable, and excellent in all weather conditions. If it breaks a few years down the road you can afford to buy another one.
No i am not makeing big power only 316whp. But i just not sure how long these motors can go and i don't want the engine to go on me then i won't be able to get anything for the car and i wont be able to rebuild the engine because of my pay cut. The tranny and the tc is not to bad to rebuild i could afford to do that. But i don't want to rebuild the tranny and tc if the engine will blow on me then i wont have any car. If I keep the evo i could afford to spend around 13, 000 on a DD which is ok but i just need it to be real reliable.
I don't really think you can compare the two. The stock power for the MS3 is 263hp and 280 lb/ft tourqe. The Si's 197 hp and 139 lb/ft of tourqe really doesn't match up. Also you have to rev the Si all the way up to 7800 rpms to get to 197 hp. With the MS3 you only have to rev up to 5500 rpms.
I find with my MS3 that shifting around 5700 rpms gets the most out of the car. It falls flat around 6300 rpms. It redlines at 6700. Many drivers ***** and moan about the boost cut in 1st and 2nd gear. Trust me, you don't notice it. It is supposed to limit boost to 10lbs in second. I have seen the full 15.6lbs in 2nd after getting rid of the stock BPV. The best first mod that you can do to the MS3 is to get rid of the stock plastic BPV and replace it with a quality metal one. I got mine from Forge. The stock BPV is designed to leak. While doing datalogging, I never saw the full 15.6lbs of boost with the stock BPV. With the Forge unit, I see as high as 19lbs. The stock turbo is good for 23 to 24lbs of boost. The other thing that I like about the car is that it looks like a sleeper.
I find with my MS3 that shifting around 5700 rpms gets the most out of the car. It falls flat around 6300 rpms. It redlines at 6700. Many drivers ***** and moan about the boost cut in 1st and 2nd gear. Trust me, you don't notice it. It is supposed to limit boost to 10lbs in second. I have seen the full 15.6lbs in 2nd after getting rid of the stock BPV. The best first mod that you can do to the MS3 is to get rid of the stock plastic BPV and replace it with a quality metal one. I got mine from Forge. The stock BPV is designed to leak. While doing datalogging, I never saw the full 15.6lbs of boost with the stock BPV. With the Forge unit, I see as high as 19lbs. The stock turbo is good for 23 to 24lbs of boost. The other thing that I like about the car is that it looks like a sleeper.
Yea all cars do but i was going to trade the evo in for a brand new SI so it would be under warranty. The evo has no warranty. But i am going to try and keep her it looks like and get a cheap DD i was thinking of maybe a ninja 250R they are 3,400 new. i know its only a 250 what do u guys think for that its new and just to get me from point A to Point B.
I was in a similar predicament. I got married 9/2005 and we were having a baby 6/07. I drove 88 miles a day in the Evo, wife drives a Pacifica (refuses to learn manual). The baby seat just wouldn't work in the Evo without my wife having her knees in the dash. So I didn't got get to drive the Evo for fun, just back and forth to work. I did not think it was worth paying he monthly payment, premium gas, and racking up miles on it. So I sold it and purchased a 1997 Honda Civic 4dr 1.6l. No it is not a beast, but if you want gas mileage, an SI is not the best. I paid only $3000 for the honda in great shape, at least 35mpg combined city /highway. No, it has no warranty but in your case, you could save the difference for potential problems. I saved $1000 a year in car insurance (I am 27 with clean record), over $100 in gas a month, no car payment, and less maintenance/cost. I am in the process of paying off bills and will get a X in a couple years. I don't think you will save as much as you think you will by getting an SI. I think if you are going for savings, get a late 90's model Honda and save the rest.
All cars from all companies can have factory caused or more likely driver related. Obivously Hondas will have problems too. I have four family members running over 150k without any transmission problems. My dad has 280k on the clock- zero issues. That doesn't mean no one will have to replace the transmission. I believe he was just saying overall, they are not as many issues as with Evo's since they are abused more.
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I have an 03 evo as a daily driver with just as many miles as yours (80k). I say keep it if you have it paid off. Maintenance on either the SI or the Evo would be almost the same. Both use high performance brakes, mobile 1 oil, tires etc. I had no problems with my car , granted I don't beat on her. I changed the tranny at 25k and still on it since with no signs of slipping same goes for brakes (50k). Get all season tires that last a little longer and don't beat on it.
By the way. I have a 1000rr that i rarely drive since everyone in Florida seems to merge lanes without looking and are all blue hairs. It's fun but also dangerous, so be careful.
Another note, honda's are more prone to get stolen. i had many friends get their honda's stolen, some from outside school and one outside their house.
By the way. I have a 1000rr that i rarely drive since everyone in Florida seems to merge lanes without looking and are all blue hairs. It's fun but also dangerous, so be careful.
Another note, honda's are more prone to get stolen. i had many friends get their honda's stolen, some from outside school and one outside their house.
beastlytalon good advise thanks for that. I still am thinking about it. It's a hard choice but i payed the car off and all of my debt i just got a big bonous from work so i decided to pay the car off and all debt in my name and i did. So I might just try and keep the evo and just buy a Honda for a good car like u did and just drive that through the week and the evo on weekends for fun. But the problem is i am a marine and i am trying to save as much as i can for the next 4 years in case i get out. But i think if i only drive the car on the weekends i will still be able to save a lot. Because i won't be spending so much on gas i would get cheaper insurance and if i only drive it on weekends it will not put so many miles on it which means less maintanince on it. I mean right now i have lots of money because i am in iraq and all the extra pay i get out here is nice. But when i get back i am geting a new job in the marines in Fl and its a big pay cut there. Thanks for all the help so far guys Any one else have any input for me.
Cars nowadays are pretty reliable no matter what they are. It really depends on how you treat it. If you drive the car hard every day then expect something bad to happened, but as long as you take good
care of it there should be no problem. Every car brakes down when you add aftermarket parts no matter what.






