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Ring record broken, yet again

Old Aug 30, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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I'm glad I got on the ACR bandwagon when I did. Dealers and private sellers might try to use this to jack up prices.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ord/index.html

But, to put it in context, if you want the best track car, buy the ACR. If you like to have a few luxuries, buy the GTR or ZR1. You'll notice that the ACR that set the record had the hardcore package (no radio/speakers, removed trunkliner, removed hood pad, etc.). Might be tough to live with for just cruising around. The ACR also destroyed other high performance cars in this Motor Trend article. It beat the next best time by about 5 seconds, but it did not get the subjective score due to the learning curve you can expect when you try to drive this car at its limits.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ing/index.html

I'm going to love slowly trying to tame this beast.

James
James congrats indeed!!

I just saw the video thorugh another forum and I was absolutely astonished. I will definately take my hat off when I see one.

Did you tell the forum you got yours at $9000 off?, Anyway, congrats one more time. what a beast in capital letters!

Carlos

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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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quite impressive. the only thing that i was confused about was the long straight. was he hitting the rev limiter in 6th?? hard to tell and i don't know the shift pattern on the car. must be a nice job to go out and flog that thing at someone else's expense.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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I also think the ACR could get a better time. I missed some parts but I did notice that the driver missed a shift. When he was going down that straight that was insane I also like how the shifter starts shaking alot when you bounce it off the rev limiter.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jmsrx
I'm glad I got on the ACR bandwagon when I did. Dealers and private sellers might try to use this to jack up prices.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ord/index.html

But, to put it in context, if you want the best track car, buy the ACR. If you like to have a few luxuries, buy the GTR or ZR1. You'll notice that the ACR that set the record had the hardcore package (no radio/speakers, removed trunkliner, removed hood pad, etc.). Might be tough to live with for just cruising around. The ACR also destroyed other high performance cars in this Motor Trend article. It beat the next best time by about 5 seconds, but it did not get the subjective score due to the learning curve you can expect when you try to drive this car at its limits.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ing/index.html

I'm going to love slowly trying to tame this beast.

James
I missed this second link, but here the ACR is running a 1:35 over the GTR's 1:40. That's a 5% difference, not the sub 2% difference found on the ring.

That would mean if the GTR did a 7:29, the ACR should be doing a 7:07.

My point is, one would rightfully suspect the ACR to be much much quicker than 7 seconds around a 7+ min track than the GTR.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
I missed this second link, but here the ACR is running a 1:35 over the GTR's 1:40. That's a 5% difference, not the sub 2% difference found on the ring.

That would mean if the GTR did a 7:29, the ACR should be doing a 7:07.

My point is, one would rightfully suspect the ACR to be much much quicker than 7 seconds around a 7+ min track than the GTR.
Different tracks, different drivers, different conditions. It's almost impossible to extrapolate results from one place to another. Remember, the GTR driver who posted the time at the ring had countless laps in the machine while trying to get the final tweaks done on it. The Motortrend test had more of a level playing field as the driver for all cars was the same and he only did a few warm up laps in each vehicle. Also notice that Motortrend did not place the ACR very high in their subjective scoring even though it trounced the rest in the numbers. The driver was quoted as saying that the ACR was an awesome machine but you have to be a great driver to drive it to its limits.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by legal-z
quite impressive. the only thing that i was confused about was the long straight. was he hitting the rev limiter in 6th?? hard to tell and i don't know the shift pattern on the car. must be a nice job to go out and flog that thing at someone else's expense.

Not to call you out at all but:

1) I would almost bit a lot of money that the Viper gets its top speed in 5th gear instead of 6th gear.
2) If he would to red line the Viper in 6th gear it would do over 250 mph due to its extra tall top gear..again, I highly doubted,most likely he was red line on 4th which should put that car at around 165mph or so..

That is my best and most accurate guess. Changing the subject, can you guys imagine a GTR spec V vs ZR1 vs ACR?, I just can't wait...

Carlos

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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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I do think the ACR is quite nice and good performer but if GM wanted to they would build a "barely street legal" car they would beat the ACR with ease. They are going to put a gas guzzler tax on this car plus the smog index will be high on this car. I am a smog tech and i have seen older vipers run crappy numbers on the gas analyzer with only 10k on it. I do agree for the time being that the ACR is a better track car.
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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SSP,

Speaking of GM, the Z06 actually pays $0 on gas guzzler, the only one of its kind that I am aware off.

Carlos
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