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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
If you need to ask a forum whether or not you should sink 100+K into anything, you are one or more of the following:

1. trying realllllllly hard for attention,
2. had a lot of money given to you and should have someone else managing it,
3. got really lucky and will be broke again soon, or,
4. couldn't afford it and are dreaming.

Seriously, what kind of question is this?:
"Would you buy it for the right price knowing you are getting this thing really, really cheap?" It barely makes sense...

ah, maybe i'm just jealous

So lets see....

1. trying realllllllly hard for attention,
Nope

2. had a lot of money given to you and should have someone else managing it,
Nope, I wish that was the case...

3. got really lucky and will be broke again soon, or,
Nope not that either

4. couldn't afford it and are dreaming.
I can afford it, however with the insurance etc it puts it out of reach and reality which is the whole reason of this post to get opinions and for people to point out things I didnt exactly think about 100% before posting and I'm not dreaming, just looking for a new toy.

I'm jealous that I dont have it now, but the census shows that it would be a bad move.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Ferrari's are more a status symbol then a performance vehicle. If you want the status and attention of owning a Ferrari, then I say, if the deal is right...go for it, but if you are looking for a bad as@ machine that is ultra fast, spend your money on carefully chosen mods for your Evo.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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my Q is about reliability - why would u want a super high end performance vehicle that has been so drastically affected by a crash? even if its a lot less expensive than otherwise.

your life and safety will depend on how well the mechanics will fix the frame, body, suspension, brakes, whatever else was damaged....

do u really want your left wheel perhaps, to be repositioned even .001" further or closer than it should be, or perhaps the frame not being 100% straight, when you're doing 180 in this thing ??
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
So lets see....

1. trying realllllllly hard for attention,
Nope

2. had a lot of money given to you and should have someone else managing it,
Nope, I wish that was the case...

3. got really lucky and will be broke again soon, or,
Nope not that either

4. couldn't afford it and are dreaming.
I can afford it, however with the insurance etc it puts it out of reach and reality which is the whole reason of this post to get opinions and for people to point out things I didnt exactly think about 100% before posting and I'm not dreaming, just looking for a new toy.

I'm jealous that I dont have it now, but the census shows that it would be a bad move.
Just because you can come up with 120Grand doesn't mean you can afford it. heck I can pay for a Lamborgini on my salary if I really wanted to do it.. however given how the rest of my life is laid out. I would be basically living to pay for a car.

I know it's a ferrari and all but in the end of it.. It's just a car. And I know you stated that you aren't doing it for the attention but that's actually the only reason I see you're doing it..

You have an Evo 9 that with much less cash can give you performance that exceeds that ferrari.. And 1. it's not crashed and you will get more for your money in the long run.

Someone said it in previous posts.. It is a status symbol. A message to those around you that you can afford something of this ridiculous manner and simply consider it a toy. You said it yourself... you want a toy but the financial status of your life gives me the impression that this is more than just a toy but instead will take over your financial life.

Do yourself a favor.. you say this is one of your close buddies.. Just ask him to drive it once a while.. Enjoy the car at his expense.. I know that sometimes hanging out with people much more financially fortunate than you can make you feel like you should be experiencing it too but in the end..

It's not what you have that makes you happy it is what you appreciate that matters most..
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Also dont forget about maintenance prices for a Ferrari. I general service will be thousands of dollars. Parts are also very expensive.

If you do get it just make sure that you can afford service, as it is not cheap.

Good Luck either way.

Mitch
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Please tell me all these stupid comparisons to an Evo are just a joke!!!!
as much as I love my Evo 9, and enjoy driving it even more than my S6, I will say this - even attempting to compare a Ferrari to anything with a mitsubishi logo on it, is childish at the least. just stop it!! who cares if an Evo could be modded to levels of performance beyond the F430??? how many people, out of the average pool, will care that a super duper modded Evo can run around the track .001 seconds faster than the F430. for heaven's sake, will u hear yourselves speak??!?!?!?!?
it takes longer to hand-stitch one Ferrari seat than it does to assemble and prep the entire Evo
enough said.

now, some people do have valid points as far as maintenance is concerned. my neighbor has a Maserati quattroporte, and the routine 5k mile service (which was - engine and trans oil change, and replace 1 tire) at the dealer, ran him $1200 ! now imagine what it is for a Ferrari

all that being said, your main conern, once again, is the fact that this car was in a serious crash.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by S6devil
it takes longer to hand-stitch one Ferrari seat than it does to assemble and prep the entire Evo
enough said.
You have been misinformed. I have been to the factory, I have watched them sew. It doesn't take all that long, and then they use some sort of cream the pulls the leather tight to take out the looseness.

BTW Ferrari F50 motor being tested with open exhaust in the dyno room = instant sticky pants
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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^ wonderful story. my point wasnt about the exact time, in milliseconds, that it takes to make a Ferrari seat, it was about how Ferraris in general are more than just 'top speed' and '0-60'....
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Run from it, stay away. No one is interested on crashed Ferraris, I am 100% certain it will be reported on Carfax and the value will be on the floor.

On that type of cars when you send it to a place for an inspection they will looks at everything. As much as I love a Ferrari 430 I highly discourage you from buying a crashed/repaired one.

Move on to other rides, you can buy a new 09 Z06 for $58900 new now, it does everything that the F430 does and it comes with warranty.

Also, check on the maintenance,registration,gas mileage and insurance, they can be a nightmare. I am happy paying $432 every 6 months full coverage on my Z06, I am sure the Ferrari is a whole lot more, it is something to consider before jumping into a big baller status.
Best of luck either way.

Carlos

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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by S6devil
^ wonderful story. my point wasnt about the exact time, in milliseconds, that it takes to make a Ferrari seat, it was about how Ferraris in general are more than just 'top speed' and '0-60'....


Ferrari V12s are sex
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by evokel
you could buy 4 brand new evo x's for that price
u can also buy 17 Lada's for that price, whats your point ???
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by evokel
you could buy 4 brand new evo x's for that price
could but y would u want to.... 1 is already to many...
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
So lets see....

1. trying realllllllly hard for attention,
Nope

2. had a lot of money given to you and should have someone else managing it,
Nope, I wish that was the case...

3. got really lucky and will be broke again soon, or,
Nope not that either

4. couldn't afford it and are dreaming.
I can afford it, however with the insurance etc it puts it out of reach and reality which is the whole reason of this post to get opinions and for people to point out things I didnt exactly think about 100% before posting and I'm not dreaming, just looking for a new toy.

I'm jealous that I dont have it now, but the census shows that it would be a bad move.
You are worrying about insurance? WTF are you going to do when you need $10k for a clutch? Ferrari's are notorious for expensive oil changes and normal wear and tear costs... Don't buy it.
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Can you even fully insure a salvaged Ferrari?

When the times comes for you to sell it, you are going to have a hard time finding a buyer.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by S6devil
^ wonderful story. my point wasnt about the exact time, in milliseconds, that it takes to make a Ferrari seat, it was about how Ferraris in general are more than just 'top speed' and '0-60'....
Aside of hunging on Ferrari's sack.. about the whole.. it takes longer to stich a seat than build and Evo.. I don't think you're understanding the point I made.

I'm not debating that a ferrari has an allure that is far more exotic than an Evo.. I'm stating that aside of paying an enormous amount of wealth for a car the poster's reasons for buying the car don't justify the means..

You are right.. Anyone would take a ferrari over an Evo, why.. because they cost so much more and are so far out of our reach.. but when comparing the two machines.. for performance.. the Evo can out perform the ferrari and at a much lower cost.. So for the poster to say he's not buying the car for attention.. then my point is.. there is no other reason why anyone would really pay that much for this car..

A ferrari in itself is not worth the money and is entirely a status symbol.. That's my point..

and that's the answer he needs to accept..

That is all.. This isn't a who's better.. Ferrari or Evo.. it's a What should I do.. thread..
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