Galant VR-4
what feedback??
im probly going for the 2G eclipse GSX because i found out the reason they didnt bring the GDI galant engine to the US is because our fuel isnt 'clean' enough or whatever...
im probly going for the 2G eclipse GSX because i found out the reason they didnt bring the GDI galant engine to the US is because our fuel isnt 'clean' enough or whatever...
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"for example, the average max streetable power someone could get from an eclipse with the 4G63 engine is normally round 500 - 550 hp. "
500 horsepower from a 2G Eclipse (or any Eclipse) is not average at all, nor would it be "streetable" in the legal sense. Yes you can build these cars to that level with an enormous amount of money and time, but you can do the same with a Civic. I have a 95 GSX and my buddy had a 93, and I did my homework when working up a truly streetable, legal, and reliable engine. 300-350 with basic bolt ons, more with advanced tuning, probably around 400 hp max on stock internals is more realistic...
500 horsepower from a 2G Eclipse (or any Eclipse) is not average at all, nor would it be "streetable" in the legal sense. Yes you can build these cars to that level with an enormous amount of money and time, but you can do the same with a Civic. I have a 95 GSX and my buddy had a 93, and I did my homework when working up a truly streetable, legal, and reliable engine. 300-350 with basic bolt ons, more with advanced tuning, probably around 400 hp max on stock internals is more realistic...
well gsx95, what i ment is that the MAX streetable at any cost (legal or not) is normaly 500-550 HP....
BTW gsx95, are u Claudio from miami dsm, just woundering cause im andrew (DSM mechanix on the miami dsm board)?
BTW gsx95, are u Claudio from miami dsm, just woundering cause im andrew (DSM mechanix on the miami dsm board)?
mechanik, you were enquiring about the VR-4 V6 Galant, i posted mine, just wanted to know if you were still interested, that's all
When you all speak of Horse Power, are you all speaking of Wheel Horse power, or Engine Horse power??
When you all speak of Horse Power, are you all speaking of Wheel Horse power, or Engine Horse power??
well gsx95, what i ment is that the MAX streetable at any cost (legal or not) is normaly 500-550 HP....
for example, the average max streetable power someone could get from an eclipse with the 4G63 engine is normally round 500 - 550 hp. "
I have a 95 GSX and my buddy had a 93, and I did my homework when working up a truly streetable, legal, and reliable engine. 300-350 with basic bolt ons, more with advanced tuning, probably around 400 hp max on stock internals is more realistic...
"Do you know any at all what you are talking about gsx95? There are two (or more) types of 4g63 motor, the Amaerican eclipse and the Japanese Evolutions, which one are you speaking of? Are you aware gsx95, that the Jap version is been transplanted in the US Eclipsese?"
Since ALL Eclipses come with the American motor, and we were discussing Eclipses, I would assume that would be the motor we were discussing- you could probably transplant a Lamborghini V12 into an Eclipse if you had the money and the inclination, or into any other car for that matter, so I am guessing that if mechanix (in Miami) is going to purchase a second generation DSM, the American motor is what he is going to get.
As for as the comment about 500-550hp, if you notice the QUOTATION MARKS and the fact that it is copied word for word from mechanix' post, you would realize I was quoting him in my post to address that specific point (as I have done with your comment, above). As for "duplicity", well, perhaps you felt I was confused, but "duplicity" means purposely being deceitful, which doesn't really apply here.
And yes, I do know any at all what I am talking about...
Hey, mechanix, you are right, if money (and street legality) is no object, you can definitely get that kind of power, and no, I am not Claudius, I am in New Jersey...Good luck if you get a 2G DSM, I love mine, even if it did get the dreaded walking crank...
Since ALL Eclipses come with the American motor, and we were discussing Eclipses, I would assume that would be the motor we were discussing- you could probably transplant a Lamborghini V12 into an Eclipse if you had the money and the inclination, or into any other car for that matter, so I am guessing that if mechanix (in Miami) is going to purchase a second generation DSM, the American motor is what he is going to get.
As for as the comment about 500-550hp, if you notice the QUOTATION MARKS and the fact that it is copied word for word from mechanix' post, you would realize I was quoting him in my post to address that specific point (as I have done with your comment, above). As for "duplicity", well, perhaps you felt I was confused, but "duplicity" means purposely being deceitful, which doesn't really apply here.
And yes, I do know any at all what I am talking about...
Hey, mechanix, you are right, if money (and street legality) is no object, you can definitely get that kind of power, and no, I am not Claudius, I am in New Jersey...Good luck if you get a 2G DSM, I love mine, even if it did get the dreaded walking crank...
Last edited by gsx95; Dec 27, 2002 at 05:13 PM.
Hey gsx95, learn to use the forum, your quotes are ****y, maybe that's why i may have misunderstood you
sorry, i though you knew that the Japanese version can and will build more power, i overestimated you.
I don't agree, if mechanix really want power, i would recommend the Jap version implant, it just makes more sense.
Again i overestimated you.
I don't think so, buddy.
Since ALL Eclipses come with the American motor, and we were discussing Eclipses, I would assume that would be the motor we were discussing- you could probably transplant a Lamborghini V12 into an Eclipse if you had the money and the inclination, or into any other car for that matter, so I am guessing that if mechanix (in Miami) is going to purchase a second generation DSM, the American motor is what he is going to get
sorry, i though you knew that the Japanese version can and will build more power, i overestimated you.
so I am guessing that if mechanix (in Miami) is going to purchase a second generation DSM, the American motor is what he is going to get
I don't agree, if mechanix really want power, i would recommend the Jap version implant, it just makes more sense.
As for "duplicity", well, perhaps you felt I was confused, but "duplicity" means purposely being deceitful, which doesn't really apply here
And yes, I do know any at all what I am talking about
im probly going for the 2G eclipse GSX because i found out the reason they didnt bring the GDI galant engine to the US is because our fuel isnt 'clean' enough or whatever...
Originally posted by VR-4 V6
Mechanix, that couldn't be farther from the truth. The 3rd generation VR-4s Twin Turbo are not equiped with Gaoline Direct Ignition engines. Only the displacement is raised from 2.0 to 2.5 liter. This car can and will out perform and out handle a BMW M3 any day or night for that matter.
Mechanix, that couldn't be farther from the truth. The 3rd generation VR-4s Twin Turbo are not equiped with Gaoline Direct Ignition engines. Only the displacement is raised from 2.0 to 2.5 liter. This car can and will out perform and out handle a BMW M3 any day or night for that matter.
The reason GDI motors are not sold in the States (and Australia) is because the sulphur content is too high in your fuel. Alfa Romeo have got around this problem recently with their JTS system.
As for a current VR-4 outhandling and outperforming a current M3 - well I own one and have driven the other, and my response is...ummmm, no it won't. Sorry


