2010 GT-R Record setting 7:27:56
Put $35,000 in a base $45k 'Vette and you will absolutely torch a GTR, ZR1 or anything else under $300,000. This is an age old argument that doesn't hold water.
Also, 1.x seconds is an eternity on the track. As I pointed out earlier, Motor Trend had the ZR1 about 1.3 seconds faster on a tight 55-60 second track. That is HUGE.
If the time on the track were extended, the ZR1's lead would likely keep growing considering it's about 500lbs lighter and has better brakes. The GTR would grease the tires and overheat brakes while the ZR1 is still going strong.
You don't have to be a GM fan to be impressed by the ZR1; you just have to be an automotive fan.
Also, 1.x seconds is an eternity on the track. As I pointed out earlier, Motor Trend had the ZR1 about 1.3 seconds faster on a tight 55-60 second track. That is HUGE.
If the time on the track were extended, the ZR1's lead would likely keep growing considering it's about 500lbs lighter and has better brakes. The GTR would grease the tires and overheat brakes while the ZR1 is still going strong.
You don't have to be a GM fan to be impressed by the ZR1; you just have to be an automotive fan.

The ACR Viper and ZR1 aren't really comparable. The ACR is a little faster (thanks to r-compound tires), but it's not something most people would want to drive everyday.
Now if GM decides to make a dedicated track version of the ZR1...well that would be insane.
I thought the Spec V was going to have hp numbers in the mid 500's.
Either way, I love how it's constantly being compared to a 620 hp, and 103,000.00$ starting price ZR1 to a 70,000 GTR. The spec V doesn't impress me much now that I have seen the numbers. What sort of numbers would we see the GTR run if it had over 600 hp? Please.
Either way, I love how it's constantly being compared to a 620 hp, and 103,000.00$ starting price ZR1 to a 70,000 GTR. The spec V doesn't impress me much now that I have seen the numbers. What sort of numbers would we see the GTR run if it had over 600 hp? Please.
Dude!! where have you been in the last few months?, the GTRs are near 80G ,yeah the ZR1 is expensive but look at the performance numbers.

Carlos
put $35,000 in a base $45k 'vette and you will absolutely torch a gtr, zr1 or anything else under $300,000. This is an age old argument that doesn't hold water.
Also, 1.x seconds is an eternity on the track. As i pointed out earlier, motor trend had the zr1 about 1.3 seconds faster on a tight 55-60 second track. That is huge.
If the time on the track were extended, the zr1's lead would likely keep growing considering it's about 500lbs lighter and has better brakes. The gtr would grease the tires and overheat brakes while the zr1 is still going strong.
You don't have to be a gm fan to be impressed by the zr1; you just have to be an automotive fan.
Also, 1.x seconds is an eternity on the track. As i pointed out earlier, motor trend had the zr1 about 1.3 seconds faster on a tight 55-60 second track. That is huge.
If the time on the track were extended, the zr1's lead would likely keep growing considering it's about 500lbs lighter and has better brakes. The gtr would grease the tires and overheat brakes while the zr1 is still going strong.
You don't have to be a gm fan to be impressed by the zr1; you just have to be an automotive fan.
Just to "stir the pot".


Viper and Vette
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/05/s...le-salt-flats/
GT-R with 480hp, video of Motor Trend pushing the machine to 192 mph.
http://www.motortrend.com/av/feature...deo/index.html
Viper...Vette? Vette...Viper? Ooops, look out here comes the 3.8 liter V6 with 120-158 less hp. lol
Viper = 7:22 / 600 hp / V-10 / 8.4 liter / 3,408 lbs / MSRP $98,110 (+850 destination & handeling)
Vette = 7:26 / 638 hp / V-8 / 6.2 liter / 3,352 lbs / MSRP $103,300
GT-R = 7:29 / 480 hp / V-6 / 3.8 liter / 3,814 lbs / MSRP $76,840 (2009)
400 pound handicap, 120-158 horsepower handicap, 7 seconds from the track record. hmmmm.....
Oh, and for those who really want to see what a beefed up GT-R can do, just check out the Hennessey package:
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/7485...nis/index.html
Killed the Vette in 1 mile, by almost 18 mph, for the same price!
If Nissan offered this the GTR700 in a "stock" format for the comparably priced $100,000 Vettes and Vipers, we could send it back to the track and see what kind of times it runs. lol 725hp GT-R!!! lol



Viper and Vette
The battle between America's preeminent supercars continues as Inside Line has taken a stock Dodge Viper ACR to the Bonneville Salt Flats to see what it can do. We'd say it did rather well. On the final run of the day, Dodge's ultimate Viper slithered its way to 173 miles per hour on the 10-mile long strip of salt. There's a great story about what it took to reach that terminal velocity, click here to read it.
By way of comparison – and because we know you're all wondering – Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson was able to wring a stock Corvette ZR1's neck to about 176 miles per hour at Bonneville in an episode that aired late last year. Different days with different weather conditions to be sure (update: as pointed out in the comments, the ZR1's figure was achieved with just 1 mile of runway
), but it's always fun to stir the pot, right?
It's not just in straight-line acceleration where the two American heavyweights duke it out, with the Viper ACR recording a blistering lap of the Nurburgring in just 7:22.1, which compares rather favorably to the ZR1's 7:26. Strapped to the dyno, the Viper ACR puts down a whopping 546 horsepower and 510 lb-ft of torque compared to the supercharged ZR1's 549.9 horsepower and 500 lb-ft. Now, when does round 4 begin?
By way of comparison – and because we know you're all wondering – Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson was able to wring a stock Corvette ZR1's neck to about 176 miles per hour at Bonneville in an episode that aired late last year. Different days with different weather conditions to be sure (update: as pointed out in the comments, the ZR1's figure was achieved with just 1 mile of runway
), but it's always fun to stir the pot, right?It's not just in straight-line acceleration where the two American heavyweights duke it out, with the Viper ACR recording a blistering lap of the Nurburgring in just 7:22.1, which compares rather favorably to the ZR1's 7:26. Strapped to the dyno, the Viper ACR puts down a whopping 546 horsepower and 510 lb-ft of torque compared to the supercharged ZR1's 549.9 horsepower and 500 lb-ft. Now, when does round 4 begin?
GT-R with 480hp, video of Motor Trend pushing the machine to 192 mph.
http://www.motortrend.com/av/feature...deo/index.html
Viper...Vette? Vette...Viper? Ooops, look out here comes the 3.8 liter V6 with 120-158 less hp. lol
Viper = 7:22 / 600 hp / V-10 / 8.4 liter / 3,408 lbs / MSRP $98,110 (+850 destination & handeling)
Vette = 7:26 / 638 hp / V-8 / 6.2 liter / 3,352 lbs / MSRP $103,300
GT-R = 7:29 / 480 hp / V-6 / 3.8 liter / 3,814 lbs / MSRP $76,840 (2009)
400 pound handicap, 120-158 horsepower handicap, 7 seconds from the track record. hmmmm.....
Oh, and for those who really want to see what a beefed up GT-R can do, just check out the Hennessey package:
Hennessey Performance Engineering is claiming to have built the fastest R35 Nissan GT-R in the world - and while it’s April 1, we’re not kidding.
Using its GTR700 upgrade kit (which adds turbos, inter-coolers, blowoff valve and electronic boost controller), Hennessey’s Nissan GT-R produces 725-hp with a maximum torque of 630 lb-ft. That allows for a 0 to 60 mph run in just 2.8 seconds.
The top speed record was set at the March Texas Mile event where the Hennessey tuned GT-R went from 0 to 193.7 mph in 1mile.
The Hennessey GTR700 can be purchased for $18,500 or $24,500 installed.
Using its GTR700 upgrade kit (which adds turbos, inter-coolers, blowoff valve and electronic boost controller), Hennessey’s Nissan GT-R produces 725-hp with a maximum torque of 630 lb-ft. That allows for a 0 to 60 mph run in just 2.8 seconds.
The top speed record was set at the March Texas Mile event where the Hennessey tuned GT-R went from 0 to 193.7 mph in 1mile.
The Hennessey GTR700 can be purchased for $18,500 or $24,500 installed.
Killed the Vette in 1 mile, by almost 18 mph, for the same price!
If Nissan offered this the GTR700 in a "stock" format for the comparably priced $100,000 Vettes and Vipers, we could send it back to the track and see what kind of times it runs. lol 725hp GT-R!!! lol

Last edited by sith_killer_99; Apr 27, 2009 at 12:00 PM.
Viper...Vette? Vette...Viper? Ooops, look out here comes the 3.8 liter V6 with 120-158 less hp. lol
Viper = 7:22 / 600 hp / V-10 / 8.4 liter / 3,408 lbs / MSRP $98,110 (+850 destination & handeling)
Vette = 7:26 / 638 hp / V-8 / 6.2 liter / 3,352 lbs / MSRP $103,300
GT-R = 7:29 / 480 hp / V-6 / 3.8 liter / 3,814 lbs / MSRP $76,840 (2009)
Viper = 7:22 / 600 hp / V-10 / 8.4 liter / 3,408 lbs / MSRP $98,110 (+850 destination & handeling)
Vette = 7:26 / 638 hp / V-8 / 6.2 liter / 3,352 lbs / MSRP $103,300
GT-R = 7:29 / 480 hp / V-6 / 3.8 liter / 3,814 lbs / MSRP $76,840 (2009)
Oh, and for those who really want to see what a beefed up GT-R can do, just check out the Hennessey package:
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/7485...nis/index.html
Killed the Vette in 1 mile, by almost 18 mph, for the same price!
If Nissan offered this the GTR700 in a "stock" format for the comparably priced $100,000 Vettes and Vipers, we could send it back to the track and see what kind of times it runs. lol 725hp GT-R!!! lol
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/7485...nis/index.html
Killed the Vette in 1 mile, by almost 18 mph, for the same price!
If Nissan offered this the GTR700 in a "stock" format for the comparably priced $100,000 Vettes and Vipers, we could send it back to the track and see what kind of times it runs. lol 725hp GT-R!!! lol


The fact is, Nissan doesn't offer a car to compete with the ZR1. Well, the V-spec might, but it's $175,000 and not offered here. With the GTR now at $82,000, it's starting to lose some of its bang for the buck appeal...especially if Nissan continues to raise the price.
These times aren't comparable because they were achieved with different drivers, on different days and in different conditions. What we do know is that the ZR1 is significantly faster than a GTR. Trying to make excuses for the GTR "only" being XX seconds slower is neither here nor there.
What exactly are you trying to prove?

Not trying to prove anything, like I said....
Just to "stir the pot".



Not that I have noticed a ton of threads around here where one person says...
"Well modded..."
and someone else says....
"Doesn't hold up blah blah blah"
Then someone else chimes in with prices and cost comparisons and "bang for the buck arguments."
hehehehehehe

Relax, have a

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