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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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When they did I couldnt believe that it sounds just a 240Z with a modified exhaust system.
I don't understand how that's possible.

Originally Posted by Protostar1
And I would not assume the thing sounds at all like a viper. Thats like saying: it sounds a bit like a car because the car has an internal combustion motor...
No its not, and that's not what he's saying. V10s have an odd firing order that makes them sound different, from inline 4s, inline 6s, V8s, etc. Every configuration has its own unique sound.

As western man says, it doesnt really sound like a viper!
Uhhh, its not like you were there.

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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A different engine in a different car will have a different exhaust route to it creating a different tone. Whether or not it sounds really different, I wouldnt know.

And not all 6 cylinders have the same tone. A R32 with its Vr6 sounds quite different from a V6 in a 350Z. A ferrari V8 sounds nothing like Mustang V8. Each engine has it own unique sound.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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I think Pcbootleger hit it on the nail here..

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
I don't understand how that's possible.



No its not, and that's not what he's saying. V10s have an odd firing order that makes them sound different, from inline 4s, inline 6s, V8s, etc. Every configuration has its own unique sound.


Uhhh, its not like you were there.
Is this your car?

For all you know, I have heard what the car sounds like. That was not the point, I was simply using Western man's knowledge of actually hearing the car to support my point that it is illogical to say the car would sound like a Viper because of solely the motor. Exhaust piping, baffling, and muffling has far more to do with overall sound than firing order, though cylinder count certainly allows for distinction. But I am sure you knew that already...
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pcbootleger
A different engine in a different car will have a different exhaust route to it creating a different tone. Whether or not it sounds really different, I wouldnt know.
But you're not sure. I'm just wondering why this is, not trying to be difficult. I've heard several different exhausts on the same car, sound somewhat different, but not drastically so. I can't imagine what kind of pipes or routing could be under that car to change its tone. I wager its just straight up X pipes and basic mufflers nothing weird.

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AAnd not all 6 cylinders have the same tone. A R32 with its Vr6 sounds quite different from a V6 in a 350Z. A ferrari V8 sounds nothing like Mustang V8. Each engine has it own unique sound.
I didn't say they did. I didn't have the space or time to post every single different engine out there to show that they have different qualities. However, I can say that I can tell a I4 from a V6 from a V8 fairly easily, no matter who makes it.

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Protostar1
Is this your car?

For all you know, I have heard what the car sounds like. That was not the point, I was simply using Western man's knowledge of actually hearing the car to support my point that it is illogical to say the car would sound like a Viper because of solely the motor.
No, and you're just repeating what someone else already said. Its just funny to me because I don't see any orginal thoughts to your hypothesis, you just latch on to what some else says and run with it as if they've proved you right all along.

Exhaust piping, baffling, and muffling has far more to do with overall sound than firing order, though cylinder count certainly allows for distinction. But I am sure you knew that already...

I know that if I stick a LS1 in an FD and leave the stock exhaust, its going to sound like a V8 and not a rotary.

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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i personally see no problems with the v-10 badge, altho i wouldnt have put it on the car. a lot of people on the street will prolly see the badge and kinda chuckle till mid way through laughing at the V10 sticker on a nissan the car just makes this loud rumbling/screeching noise and disappears. nice car. def wouldnt mind this thing handing me my *** just to say i saw it in person.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
No, and you're just repeating what someone else already said. Its just funny to me because I don't see any orginal thoughts to your hypothesis, you just latch on to what some else says and run with it.
The reason I posted the first time was because I had this "hypothesis" already. I was not latching on to another person's thoughts. You are simply incorrect. When more than one person states the same thing, you should look at your arguement more closely. Unless we are dealing with advanced engineering topics, odds are the majority is correct. Though I am sure you could argue that exhaust note engineering is pretty advanced, it is a topic that the average person can comment on based on experience.

Besides the fact that companies like BMW spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to engineer an exhaust note, would you agree an Evo with a dump tube sounds nothing like an Evo with say an AMS TBE? How about that same viper with straight pipes vs stock. While you (clearly an expert) could likely tell that they both have V10s, you would be hard pressed to note that they are the same motor because of their drastically different exhaust piping, aside from seeing they are both in a viper shell.

I hate to e-argue, but I love people as arrogant as you with clearly no knowledge or expertise to support the BS you are spewing.

I don't know if I said this already, but I should have, that is a very very cool 240Z. Not what I would have done with it, but the condition and finish are top notch.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Protostar1
Unless we are dealing with advanced engineering topics, odds are the majority is correct.
Majority, indeed. What are there, three or four people commenting on this? Only one of which has actually heard the car live and in person? That's not a majority, that's just a few people having a conversation.

would you agree an Evo with a dump tube sounds nothing like an Evo with say an AMS TBE?
I know my Eclipse sounds different when its dump tube opens vs. when it is not. When its closed it sounds like almost every other Eclispe out there with a TBE. I remember what it was like when I was running an open down pipe. It sounded different too. The difference is that the lack of a muffler is letting out all the sound you don't normally hear. I think any Viper would sound exactly like this Z if it had the same exhaust setup, but only because either the mufflers are letting out more racket, its lack of cats. But the underlying "sound" of the V10 is still there, its just overwhelmed by other harsh harmonics.

I hate to e-argue, but I love people as arrogant as you with clearly no knowledge or expertise to support the BS you are spewing.
Aww, then don't waste time responding to my BS, since you are clearly above me.
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