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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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And out of curiousity sake, do you actually rally your car? Most people use the evo as a highway racer and 1/4 mile car not what it was meant to be used for.
If you are asking me, the answer is no. However, I don't own an Evo.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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The super-cars that are being mentioned are basically detuned race cars. They have so much more race proven technology it makes the evo look archaic in some arenas. With that said, improving or accessing that technology comes with a hefty price tag with mods, repairs, and maintenance.
The evo is a practical true street 4 door car, that can be made to go fast and perform as well or better overall in all areas street and or track, and still DD. That says a lot !
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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You weren't thinking of the Evolution as a competiter to these "Supercars" because you never have has to try to control 700 boosted whp! Until now I never has either, but as soon as you give the evo that kind of power and strap down the suspension do you realize what it is truly capable of and start the comparisons! And let me tell you it is capable of a lot!!
I don't own an Evo. I wasn't really thinking of it at all. I intend to run my car into the ground and buy another one for $20,000. In my mind, that is the advantage of these cars over supercars. I wouldn't have a seconds hesitation about doing certain things in my car. I would be somewhat more reserved about it in a Ferrari.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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Maybe I just like my Evo too much and I am not willing to jump the bandwagon like a couple of you guys that just have the Evo till you get a bigger paycheck lol
When I got the bigger paycheck I kept the Evo...I figured a car running low to mid 12's in the 1/4 mile is fast enough and still maintains daily driveability.

The supercars are getting impressive but just because they're making insane numbers that shouldn't diminish the feel of owning a $30k car that's fun to drive whether it's bone stock or pushing 700+ ponies. Cars are supposed to get better with time but better and faster aren't always the same thing...have fun in whatever you drive!
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 38six
The super-cars that are being mentioned are basically detuned race cars. They have so much more race proven technology it makes the evo look archaic in some arenas. With that said, improving or accessing that technology comes with a hefty price tag with mods, repairs, and maintenance.
The evo is a practical true street 4 door car, that can be made to go fast and perform as well or better overall in all areas street and or track, and still DD. That says a lot !
actually the zr1 makes more power than the alms corvette
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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I think you guys fail to realize but our cars are getting better, not by mitsu but by the vendors, fabricators and all the people that provide us with our aftermarket parts. Every year someone is inventing a new more efficient and higher quality piece or re-designing an existing one. New developments like SD have made our cars more bearable to drive and tuners have been getting better and better which means our cars are safer and can get better fuel mileage than ever before. So thanks to all of the vendors that are keeping the margin between our cars and supercars very close.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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Very true however - in terms of power, at least for the ct9as, we've reached the point where stock frame turbos are pushing the limits of the motor before they need to get built. Suspension wise improvements over existing products are fairly marginal I'd say.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Very true however - in terms of power, at least for the ct9as, we've reached the point where stock frame turbos are pushing the limits of the motor before they need to get built. Suspension wise improvements over existing products are fairly marginal I'd say.
So whats the problem with that, if your tune is safe you'll be fine until you can get a built motor and with the ability to trap 135-140mph on a stock appearing turbo puts us way above the speed of these super cars.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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I was thinking about the same thing last week. It really is a good time to buy a performance car / supercar if you can afford to.

My Evo IX when new, was an amazing bang for the buck. I think the new Evo X took an evolutionary step with the new drivetrain, AWD system. I think the next step for the engine is direct injection, variable geometry turbo and a 7 speed dual clutch transmission. This new technology is what's been introduced in the last 5 years.

It also takes a while for the aftermarket to implement what is learned from the blazing technology we see released from the factory supercars. I'm sure we will see tricks in cylinder head design, tires, engine components, etc trickle down to products that we can put in our cars.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by aka.ralliart15
So whats the problem with that, if your tune is safe you'll be fine until you can get a built motor and with the ability to trap 135-140mph on a stock appearing turbo puts us way above the speed of these super cars.
nothing's wrong with that, i'm just saying the limit of the motor has been reached, and for all further improvements in the aftermarket you'll need a built motor to exploit. My whole point is that I want to avoid that route - which is no longer possible if I "want the performance of a supercar"
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kyooch
actually the zr1 makes more power than the alms corvette
I don't think the technology in street tires is there yet to get maximum performance from the ZR1 yet. I think 10 years from now, just a set of tires on a stock ZR1 will produce amazing improvements.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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i agree with OP as well to an certine point. the EVO is a car that many ppl in those high end cars have no idea what they are. which is cool to me i like that part. they pay huge money for there cars. we pay way less for each horsepower an footpound of torque then they do. im someone that loves the cheap interior and ride noise an how you feel every bump in the road. which is the reason i went with the RS. i recently went in a ride in the new mercedes SLS AMG. my god it was fast/expensive. but like alot of the supercars an other fast cars they dont feel like the EVO. when you sit in the EVO seats you feel like the car is holding you an its connected to your hips. what you wanna do you can get the evo to do.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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nothing's wrong with that, i'm just saying the limit of the motor has been reached, and for all further improvements in the aftermarket you'll need a built motor to exploit. My whole point is that I want to avoid that route - which is no longer possible if I "want the performance of a supercar"
does having a built motor make the car any less streetable? I would personally love to have a built motor, why would you not want to have a built motor in your car?
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aka.ralliart15
does having a built motor make the car any less streetable? I would personally love to have a built motor, why would you not want to have a built motor in your car?
not necessarily but i think it can. i don't think a built motor is going to be as reliable as any of the motors in the current production supercars that's for sure. And those motors have warranties on top of that. in my mind getting built motor and stripped and gutted evo defeats the purpose of having a budget racer.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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Well my evo spun a bearing in the late summer and I was pissed. I couldn't believe i had spent so much money and wasn't even pushing my fp black. I wish I could afford a zr1 or supra. I had just built the drive train and spent over 5000 thousand dollars in the summer and was about to build the motor next year but i realized **** it, the evo is fast and i beat a lot of fast cars but whats the point ****s going to keep breaking and breaking so I bought an sc with a 1jz in it and I plan on going with a mild single turbo and Vip. I will buy another evo but it will probably be my dd. And that's what the evo was meant for and is turning into a dd just like the s2000 and the 350z. But the best bang for the buck is the supra and also the evo. But even with a supra you have to build the motor to make reliable power but tho's cars have been around for ages and still haul *** if done right and so will the evo you just have to do it rite the first time a lesson i learned the hard way.

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