Did not mean it to be negative...I too have priorities, my evo is my outlet to the real world work/family and life in general. I will never spend beyond my means where if something was to come up I will not have to get rid off things or have that story of parting out your car due to financial problems, new baby, or just was not ready for this type of hobby. Everyone knows what they can or cant afford so.....don't set yourself up later if you cant afford it. I am just a car guy who may not be able to afford that 100k car but maybe enjoy an evo 8 that performs like a supercar.

 

Sounds to me like he was just bored with it. How was he bored with it? This I cannot comprehend.

Also, not to go all derailing, but at what point do you go from "performs like a supercar" to "it's a supercar"?

 

When it's actually a supercar. An Evo with mods isn't one, and never will be.

 

Is a Porsche GT3 a supercar to you? Or something more like a koenigseeeeeeeeseseseseeseseseseg?

 

A supercar to me is a car that has an extremely high performance level in stock form, some level of luxury, with a price tag to match, and some level of exclusivity. An Evo with mods is no more a supercar than a Civic with mods. Youtube is filled with videos of modified Civic crushing Ferraris, Lamborghini, etc. A Porsche GT3 is at the low-end of supercar territory, but probably still counts.

 

So, asking my question again, what is a specific supercar to you? I'd like to make this question more dynamic by asking it to be more attainable. Aka, not a Veyron.

 

A Veyron is a hypercar.

Examples of supercars are the Dodge Viper, Nissan GTR, Porsche 911 Turbo, and maybe Corvette ZO6.

I'm not trying to bash the Evo, but it's simply not a supercar. It's a hopped-up Econobox, and that's not a bad thing.

 

What, specifically, is it lacking?

Having daily-driven two wildly-different Evo's in two wildly-different countries I've never felt they lacked essential features....

 

Let's see. I changed all fluids a couple of years ago, and have paid for oil changes every couple of thousand miles. This and 4 sets of tires/3 sets of pads have been my only maintenance expenses during the 8 years/35K miles of Evolution ownership. For the life of me I cannot understand the folks who fruck-up their cars and then complain about the cost of repairs.

Edit: As for [me] trading the Evo for an Audi or a MB, it's a sure sign of a need for heavy medication.

 

Don't get me wrong, it's a great car, and no, I certainly don't think its lacking any "essentials".

That said, in my eyes a good daily driver is comfortable, quiet (at least from an interior rattle/road noise point of view) and has some cargo room. Any Evo I've owned/driven has had more than its fair share of rattles and creaks, lacks any noticably effective means of sound deadening, is not terribly comfortable, and for the size of the car, lacks much usable cargo room at all.

 

The only people who have problems of maintaining their evo's are the ones who have OCD. Oh **** I need to go full bolt ons for more power, oh **** still not enough power need a bigger turbo, oh **** still need more power need to build the engine to 2.0, oh **** need more let me go 2.2 stroker, oh **** need new wheels, oh **** need CF on everything. You see where I'm going there? That's a ****ed up brain man, end up selling the evo after. SMH.

 

Wow guys take it easy, not everyone can afford a veyron. Thats why I said perform LIKE a supercar. I will be that old guy with an evo in the garage with a car cover over it cause it looks like I will never get rid of it.

 

I owned a C63 AMG when new, I had it for 2.5 years(prior to that I had a new C6 Z06). The C63s also have their issues. The rears tires truly don't last, the average owner reports having to replace the stock factory tires at 5000 miles.

Services a, B and C are stupid expensive, the oil changes are very expensive because of the amount of oil and how much the dealer charges. The dealer will charge for very expensive stiff like the cabin filter or wipers blades. Unless you are aware of what you are signing prior to your services A , B or C then the dealer will charge you these stuff because is part of the maintenance.

Also, the dealer will NOT resurface the rotors on a C63 AMG. They call it from replacement at 40000 miles which along with the brakes pads you are talking around $2300 brake job. Also, keep in mind the gas mileage is awful, around 14 mpg at best(they are rated at 12 mpg city-19 mpg hwy). Then don't forget the insurance.

Like I said , I speak from experience, I had mine, it was fun, I put headers and tune and it was quick but it also has other associated cost.

Back to the S3, I test drove one about a month ago and is a heck of a car for the price. Very soon the Golf R will offer similar performance for about $4k less.
The Ausi S is like a modern Evo but with much better gas mileage. Only thing about the S3 is that is not a true permanent AWD quattro

 

To the OP,

Great choice of car and very unknown by most of the people. I test drove the first S3 in Tucson(graphite gray), my trade numbers didn't work quite well, they were giving me a few thousands dollars less for my 2012 Mercedes Benz CLS Bi-turbo.

I sold the benz and had money in hand but ended up buying a STI however I can give you my feedback from the test drive:

Rear seats space is limited, there is not much room in the back. Rear cargo area is also very limited. I test drove the one with the mag ride and 19" wheels(two tone). The wheels were jawdroping beautiful. The ride is firm but switchable.

The transmission is "OK", it can be fast but unless you step on the gas hard from a stop it has that half throttle delay. I am familiar with the DSGs since I had a GTI, a GLI and now TDI with dsg, they all do the same thing. If you don't believe what I am saying then do this: Go to a ramp or incline and hit the gas slightly... the car will make a whoshhh nosie and go nowhere, if you want the car to move you have to hit the gas harder and all the sudden the car will move forward violently. The DSG transmission unfortunately have that minor flaw.

The engine is phenomenal and for those that actually questions this engine, well. the Golf R is running 3.7sec 0-60mph with just a tune(look for revo tune on google) so this Audi S3 is very capable of a high 3 sec acceleration with just a tune while you hold a cup of coffee or chose to scratch your left ******** while you laugh at the guy next door bogging down or grinding the second gear trying to catch up with you)

The braking is excessively sharp and assisted. I still scratch my head trying to figure out what are these German cars doing to their brake system to be so potent, BMW cars are the same way.

The electronic boost gauge in the cluster is a "nice touch" but so unusable. The dash has great quality, it has that soft touch that feels great, the interior overall is very simple.

I would say that I agree with you about a nice jump in quality over the Evo. The car has nearly identical dimensions but it has all the modern gadgets of a car from 2015 .

Last but not least, please accept that this car has the marketing quattro but is not a true permanent quattro like the ones found on the S4, S5, S6, S7. Unfortunately(if you want to use this word), the Audi S3 system is a Haldex generation 5 and that is the new "AWD system on demand".

So it is a FWD car until you need more traction and it temporarily engages on AWD, hence the good gas mileage and great trap speeds( This car test already 4.4 sec 0-60 and 12.9@ 108mph ). Don't be disappointed, like I said, you will never realized the AWD set up. You will still smoke a lot of people from a dead stop because the car will launch in AWD but will switch to FWD soon after that.

There is always a give an take situation,an Evo or a STI will yield 3-5mp better gas mileage and will trap 3-4 mph higher had they chose a Haldex system but in exchange the Evos and STI have a beefier permanent true AWD. The Audi instead, doesn't use a permanent AWD system thus it yields better MPG and also higher trap speeds. The "quattro" is purely marketing thing from Audi, yes it is a Quattro(when engaged) but not permanent AWD system, it is an AWD on demand(not a bad thing).

Carlos

 

Both my Golf R and my TDI was like that. It's electric assisted and you can turn down the sensitivity with a VAG-COM cable by just unchecking one and checking another. It made a huge difference as I hated the sensitivity as set from the factory. I felt like I was going to launch myself through the windshield just trying to find a parking spot.