Mustangs
Feb 8, 2016, 05:55 PM
#46
Lighting Lap 2014, a Z/28 whipped the crap out of the M4 around V.I.R by almost a full ten seconds. And the R beat the Z/28
I get the refinement thing, I like Bimmers a lot, had a 135i and 335i. But to me, gushing over their quality interiors is being a dash molester. I realize the M is a huge cut above with a real limited slip, but you like Evos. They are no-compormise racecars. The GT350R is right up your alley. It's just a whole lot faster no-compromise racecar, and a performance bargain at $65k. My buddy did not pay some asinine markup.
I get the refinement thing, I like Bimmers a lot, had a 135i and 335i. But to me, gushing over their quality interiors is being a dash molester. I realize the M is a huge cut above with a real limited slip, but you like Evos. They are no-compormise racecars. The GT350R is right up your alley. It's just a whole lot faster no-compromise racecar, and a performance bargain at $65k. My buddy did not pay some asinine markup.
Feb 8, 2016, 05:59 PM
#47
The GT350R is a bargain because it offers supercar performance, without the supercar price tag.
but it is a fast car t the point we actually argue over it. ( so its undeniably fast) But there are things which makes it very unappealing to me vs other cars for that high price range. You guy said it some dealers selling them over if I remember right someone said around $80 grand. now that is stupid.
Yes the M4 GTS is expensive so as the original GT3 comparison which is even more expensive...
Yes the M4 GTS is expensive so as the original GT3 comparison which is even more expensive...
So as I said I just picked on eout of the crowed around the GT3 which also wouldn't be a wipe out on track. That was the original point of mine.
The Wipe out on track for the GT350R is a bit of stretch , that is my point here.
The Wipe out on track for the GT350R is a bit of stretch , that is my point here.
Feb 8, 2016, 06:04 PM
#48
Lighting Lap 2014, a Z/28 whipped the crap out of the M4 around V.I.R by almost a full ten seconds. And the R beat the Z/28
I get the refinement thing, I like Bimmers a lot, had a 135i and 335i. But to me, gushing over their quality interiors is being a dash molester. I realize the M is a huge cut above with a real limited slip, but you like Evos. They are no-compormise racecars. The GT350R is right up your alley. It's just a whole lot faster no-compromise racecar, and a performance bargain at $65k. My buddy did not pay some asinine markup.
I get the refinement thing, I like Bimmers a lot, had a 135i and 335i. But to me, gushing over their quality interiors is being a dash molester. I realize the M is a huge cut above with a real limited slip, but you like Evos. They are no-compormise racecars. The GT350R is right up your alley. It's just a whole lot faster no-compromise racecar, and a performance bargain at $65k. My buddy did not pay some asinine markup.
no its not lol
$65K is not a same as $35K (max). specially when you consider the all weather performance etc.
for $65 K there is tons of cars a head of that GT350R for me.
I don't see a $65+K mustang as bargain by a long shot, sorry.
(neither the $135K M4GTS by the way)
Feb 8, 2016, 06:06 PM
#49
no its not lol
$65K is not a same as $35K (max). specially when you consider the all weather performance etc.
for $65 K there is tons of cars a head of that GT350R for me.
I don't see a $65+K mustang as bargain by a long shot, sorry.
(neither the $135K M4GTS by the way)
$65K is not a same as $35K (max). specially when you consider the all weather performance etc.
for $65 K there is tons of cars a head of that GT350R for me.
I don't see a $65+K mustang as bargain by a long shot, sorry.
(neither the $135K M4GTS by the way)
Feb 8, 2016, 06:10 PM
#50
...Since when was it never about the price? That's the entire ****ing point! The GT350R is a bargain because it offers supercar performance, without the supercar price tag.
MSRP is about $65,000. What some dealers add as markup is irrelevant. Evos were marked up in Calgary when they first arrived. $60,000+ for an Evo MR is ****ing crazy, but some people bought $60,000 Evos because that's what dealers were selling them at. I have no doubt the M4 GTS will also see a markup. It's called being an advantageous business.
And you missed my point entirely by picking out one car, holding it up as an example, while ignoring the fact that your example isn't proven to be faster, but does cost twice as much. Is that the point you're making, that the GT350R costs $65,000 but is 4 seconds slower around a 7:30 track than a $134,000 BMW M4?
The GT350R is a bargain because it offers supercar performance, without the supercar price tag.MSRP is about $65,000. What some dealers add as markup is irrelevant. Evos were marked up in Calgary when they first arrived. $60,000+ for an Evo MR is ****ing crazy, but some people bought $60,000 Evos because that's what dealers were selling them at. I have no doubt the M4 GTS will also see a markup. It's called being an advantageous business.
And you missed my point entirely by picking out one car, holding it up as an example, while ignoring the fact that your example isn't proven to be faster, but does cost twice as much. Is that the point you're making, that the GT350R costs $65,000 but is 4 seconds slower around a 7:30 track than a $134,000 BMW M4?
and this is what I said and I hold my point valid doesn't matter how much you try to twist it around:
that is a stretch. Competitive? yes, but that's all about it. No bargain no wipe.
Feb 8, 2016, 06:14 PM
#53
that is a stretch.
Feb 8, 2016, 06:15 PM
#55
wrong
and with a lot cheaper set up then $65K and not once, FYI
But I don't want to go there lol.
I even shared track (even drove) well over set up cars then mustangs which actually would decimate the mustang...
Just to stay with touring cars:
and with a lot cheaper set up then $65K and not once, FYI
But I don't want to go there lol.
I even shared track (even drove) well over set up cars then mustangs which actually would decimate the mustang...
Just to stay with touring cars:
Last edited by Robevo RS; Feb 8, 2016 at 06:25 PM.
Feb 8, 2016, 06:41 PM
#57
Sorry, still do not believe you.
If you had, you would not be making 98% of the comments you are making in this thread.
For somebody that actually races cars, you sure sound like a armchair quarterback most of the time, at least on the internet, or you just have a ton of free time and like to troll.
Oh cool! I've also shared track with expensive race cars, GT3 cup cars, Panoz race cars, Ferrari challenge cars, touring cars, etc. Cool man! *sarcasm* Cool!
If you had, you would not be making 98% of the comments you are making in this thread.
For somebody that actually races cars, you sure sound like a armchair quarterback most of the time, at least on the internet, or you just have a ton of free time and like to troll.
Oh cool! I've also shared track with expensive race cars, GT3 cup cars, Panoz race cars, Ferrari challenge cars, touring cars, etc. Cool man! *sarcasm* Cool!
Feb 8, 2016, 06:42 PM
#58
there is lot going this arguments, like tire choices , resale values , maintenance , etc.
As I said, the Mustang is fast it is, the later models are not just in drag
But I just got hooked on the wipe the most expensive cars, and specially when you guy started to bring one of my all time favorite the GT3 here as a comparison and still was like a wiping comments.
No the Mustang not wiping out super cars like the GT3 in real life. That is cool to read things in the magazines etc, but when you got to track that is different, and we all know that.
Mustangs are good but not great, in my opinion. GT3's and similar is a whole other level. period.
I think I said what I have to here . As long as you dont say the Mustangs wipes the GT3 and super cars ( which are well over priced the M4GTS ) again lol