Don't waste your time. People will night fight a cause that doesn't serve them directly. I've been trying, for years, to get people to look at the big picture. Sure, this doesn't affect them now. But, eventually, they will work their way to something that does.
Don't get me wrong: I don't see this law passing. Nor do I see how they could enforce it.
Also, I read the whole thing and thus is what I get from it:
From what I can tell, they are trying to keep people from defeating smog equipment even while on the race track, if your car is registered to be on the street. I don't understand how they will enforce this. Smog refs at the race tracks? LOL

 

Well your heart is in the right place, just the info that's a bit off.

 

They dont have to all they do is show up and close all the people making parts. Like an fp turbo .....

 

Dose this mean the EPA is going to inspect your car at race track. No But the EPA could impose serious fines on any manufacturers or sellers of EGR delete parts or ecu programming. Worse case sanrio they fine racing organizations and race tracks that allow street cars with modified egr systems.

And it doesn't have to pass anything. The EPA already has the authority. The EPA see somthing they don't like and thinks it's has to regulate even though it's not a problem. This is big government BS.

 

rules in rally, the race car has to be street legal. So what is the rule then? I mean a rally cars are modified and not using oem catalytic converter etc.
But we have to pass noise and smog standards. Other then that they are definitely modified street cars for racing. What EPA does with us then?

 

I've always wondered about that... cause in the US anyway, all emissions equipment has to be oem to be technically street legal. Is "street legal" according to rally organisations mean it has a cat? cause I've seen rally cars with a cat where the exhaust tip goes, there's no way that'd fly any real emissions inspection

 

well... yes its legal because you do pass the emission test by numbers. Also we do not have stock ecus but has OBD2 port. etc.

I do think, with a state inspection would fail but small places you can pass.
We do have inspection every race before the Parc Ferme , even before we do start the shake down. (before the race one day practice on one special stage)
Full inspection, but there they only checking the paper work ( like insurance- registration and inspection sticker), and they do focus more on the car and safety equipment's .

I have a same set up as you refer for many reasons.

 

aftermarket ecu or just reflashed stock ecu?
if aftermarket, who makes ecu's that have obd2 ports? I'm assuming they cost an arm and a leg and first born?

and yeah, cat as far as possible makes sense, the closer to the engine you are the bigger difference in power exhaust flow makes. but the cats take longer to warm up and therefore less affective, which is one of the reasons it'd be illegal to the letter of the law

edit:
although I'm curious about center placement... wouldn't it be easier and also flow better if it just came out on the side? with the exhaust being in the center you have to work around the rear diff and add bends in there... then again, being that far back it prolly doesn't make a difference

 

I am using the Gems Plug and play, and they can read it through the factory port. But now you said it I think I said something wrong here, you need a bundle to read that ecu. So sorry I don't think they can read it. But its a PnP so really easy install and the tuner tunes it trough the oem port, so that is why I thought for a sec its a readable OBD2. Sorry my bad.

http://www.gems.co.uk/?content=pages&id=evo-implant

 

no price anywhere (even google), aka, way more than I'd ever wanna spend on an ecu

 

about $4k tuned in your car without the ACD ECU.

can't do side exit, to loud. also under the car is more protected in the factory chanel.

 

yeah, 4k is a pretty penny... does this ecu do anything an AEM Infinity or Haltech or similar 1-1.5k ecu doesn't do? not trying to pick apart your choices in mods/parts (I'm in no position to do that as I've never even driven a rally car, let alone build one) or anything, just curious

I didn't mean out the side, I meant offset, like where the right (or left, whichever is the straighter path, iirc the right is straighter) exhaust tip of the stock one would be instead of centered. Like you standard evo x single exhausts...

 

Yeah maybe that way would be good but I think the rules doesn't allow side mufflers, I have to check. And I still think would be too loud for public street.

The Gems is top of the line and the real difference is what they can do with them , and that is a tuner field , I cant give you the real review on it. As far as I cared they told me it is actually harder to tune the GEMS, but its a much faster and much more customizable ECU then those cheap ones. Also new thing the Vipec , but after one or two year races the racers usually ending up with Motec GEms or Pectel.

SO you buy it twice really. I know the ACD ECU has at least 5 different mode , and it does a real difference when you have it. Specially in braking in turns etc.

I am a user , and I never really were interested about tuning. Sorry

 

https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/...2-p-60902.html

Engine ECU $3399
ACD ECU $1699

Total $5098
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GEMS Plug-N-Play ECU Mitsubishi EVO X 08+
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The GEMS Mitsubishi EVO ECU’s are being extensively used in rallying across the world and have proven themselves time and again. These are fully pin-to-pin compatible with the Mitsubishi EVO standard looms, and bolt directly into the standard case.

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•Fits into EVO standard case and loom
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•Knock control
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•Idle speed control
•Gear correction
•Individual cylinder controlv
•Re-flashable firmware

Specifications:
•Comms: serial and CAN (EVO X - USB)
•Twin CAN (EVO X)
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•User configurable I/O
•Single piece PCB

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GEMS differential controllers are used in many cars all over the world, proving themselves over the years to be reliable and highly usable. The EVO ACD is a direct replacement for the factory unit making it a perfect option for group N rally series cars. The EVO ACD gives you complete control over your Mitsubishi EVO center differential, providing with you the maximum grip and enhanced handling, be it on tarmac, gravel or snow.

Diff Controller Features:
•Fully customizable differential maps
•Setup can be password protected
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•Modes of operation: Off, Gravel, Snow, Tarmac, Lock
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haha, I never thought of a 1-1.5k ecu as cheap...

so an exhaust like the pic below might be illegal or considered a "side" muffler? I'm not really seeing why it'd be louder than the setup you have now...