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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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HOnda New AWD System

http://www.world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2004-4040401a/

Watch da video.... looks intersting.. repost.. sorry, im only human.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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hmmm
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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Interesting system. Very similar to Mitsu's AYC/ACD. Some of the claims on the video are a bit of a stretch, though.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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I don't think Honda's claims are excessive... their engineers are insanely awesome. They are the only company to date to independently develop a jet engine de novo in the modern age... without the assistance of established manufactures.

By and by, with increasing hp and companies like Honda with money and R&D moving away from FWD to RWD/AWD platforms, companies like MITSU and Subaru are going to lose their nich market propriety.

Going to up the ante for all...

Should be interesting.

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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Pardon my stupidity but I was under the impression that the skyline's AWD and computer system worked under the same or a very similer principle? Or am I really wrong...ither way, it seems like an amazing system, but I wounder how much it weighs?
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Nissan's AWD system does not alter torque independently at the wheel itself, just between front and rear wheels.

It's a pretty sweet idea...

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pjork-master
Nissan's AWD system does not alter torque independently at the wheel itself, just between front and rear wheels.

It's a pretty sweet idea...

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The ATESSA E-TS system used in V spec GTRs has an electronic rear differential that can send torque back and forth between the two rear wheels, much like the AYC in Evos in the rest of the world.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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I've never heard any honda video say torque so much before .. hahah

side note .. i hope this SH-awd happens really soon for the real market.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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Big whoop!! Honda can't seem to deliver anything exciting anymore. Is this AWD system going into an "exciting" car...hell no...a luxory cruiser. BORING!!! Honda targets it's cars for the American market at conservative "I don't want my car to break" types. Honda is too concerned about "5 star safety" and not enough about passion. Take a look at and take a drive in any Honda automobile product in the US other than the S2K(wow, nice minor model change:-/) or NSX(my, lets keep this around for 2 decades:-/)....YAWN....Honda is at the back of the pack right now and is every other japanese manufacturers ***** because they won't engineer a rear wheel drive car( oh! not safe enough johnny chimpo san!...whatever). Who gives a rats *** about a jet...I"ll never be able to afford one. Sorry for the rant.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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I thought it looked like a really nice system way better than limited slip systems which take so much time to transfer power this system looked like it would transfer almost immidiatly as gravity pulled it. I was very impressed with this sytem I am an ex-honda owner and their suspension was pretty good as compared to other cars in its price range (at the time) If they can get a decent car to put that system in (like the old prelude or integra) I would at least take one for a test drive to check it out if they really get on the ball and give a car a turbo with that system I think the Evo may have a new serious competitor.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 03:58 AM
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Excited am I!!! More AWD R&D cometition = better AWD for us all!! HeHe!! And ozlanceroz... Your Right, think that that was the FIRST time i ever heard a Honda spokesman speak of torque.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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johnny.. you forgot the type r and the rsx-s which are great cars. There are a lot of honda cars that are exciting cars from the factory.. but they are not available here in the US.. like tha accord typr R or the civic type R.

but this looks awd system is amazing!! very cool for autocross if they use it in a light car.. but this system is going to be heavy..
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyChimpo
Big whoop!! Honda can't seem to deliver anything exciting anymore. Is this AWD system going into an "exciting" car...hell no...a luxory cruiser. BORING!!! Honda targets it's cars for the American market at conservative "I don't want my car to break" types. Honda is too concerned about "5 star safety" and not enough about passion. Take a look at and take a drive in any Honda automobile product in the US other than the S2K(wow, nice minor model change:-/) or NSX(my, lets keep this around for 2 decades:-/)....YAWN....Honda is at the back of the pack right now and is every other japanese manufacturers ***** because they won't engineer a rear wheel drive car( oh! not safe enough johnny chimpo san!...whatever). Who gives a rats *** about a jet...I"ll never be able to afford one. Sorry for the rant.
Which is why Honda has been having record sales and record profits every year when other manufacturers are having to give cars away to keep their sales up. Just because they don't appeal to you doesn't mean they're not good cars.

The jet is significant because it was a challenge. Honda's engineering corps is among the most capable in the world - the jet was proof of that.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pjork-master
I don't think Honda's claims are excessive...
Originally Posted by Honda Video
... "No understeer occurs..."
Bit bold of a statement. The more accurate statement would be "much less understeer occurs." Of course, understeer can be reduced in other ways (steering/suspension geometry). There were some other comments that were misleading - "lifting the throttle in a turn creates oversteer" is fundamentally false on a front/all-drive car. It has less understeer, and pulls inside your previous path. Oversteer means the vehicle has gone yaw unstable, and if that was happening every time people lifted the throttle in a turn, most drivers wouldn't live to be 20.

Minor things that an engineer cringes at when watching a marketing video...
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 06:36 AM
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if u ask the majority of import tuners, they pretty much agree that honda makes some of the best engines around. according to some import magazines they claim that the new "k" series engines are the best 4 cly NA engines made (at this point). honda makes basically 100hp per liter. best turbo 4 cly belongs to the Evo of course. but back to the topic. if honda puts this system on a RSX or Civic SI, the Evo and STi are gonna have some stiff competition. even if the car remains a NA engine.

sh*t i will take a AWD honda anyday. sh*t regardless of people that hate on honda/acura. (mainly because of poser tuners aka ricers). still one of the most reliable cars in the world...probably the best. with probably the best tunable engines ever made. sh*t maybe honda will just release a AWD turbo car. after all honda does compete in rally challenges with the EVo and STi.

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