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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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Glad I moved to Florida...no restrictions down here!
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NOVA EVO
Glad I moved to Florida...no restrictions down here!
tell me about it, I moved up from Miami 2 years ago. I owned louder cars there and never got an exhaust ticket once. Plus they are so lax there about everything....damn I need to move again
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SterlingEvo
Unfortunately, the law isn't just that it passes emissions, but that it's "stock-like" in emissions AND sound control (see below). "Modified exhaust" doesn't just mean no cat to VA - their definition of "exhaust" is everything from the motor back. You can have an aftermarket exhaust (like you say... meineke would go out of business if you couldn't) but Meineke ain't putting 3" turbo-backs on peoples' cars

* Here's the VA Law: "No person shall drive and no owner of a motor vehicle shall permit or allow the operation of any vehicle on a highway unless it is equipped with an exhaust system of a type installed as standard factory equipment, or comparable to that designed for use on the particular vehicle as standard factory equipment, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise (*note: this is where cops have discretion to pull you over or not). An exhaust system shall not be deemed to prevent excessive or unusual noise if it permits the escape of noise in excess of that permitted by the standard factory equipment exhaust system of private passenger motor vehicles or trucks of standard make."

In other words, you can get a ticket, you can contest it, you can do whatever and maybe get lucky, maybe not - the law isn't perfectly clear because so many cars are so different. It really sucks, but...
Is there some kind of petition going around. It just seems to me that this is wrong. Cops don't pull over classic hot rods for excessive noise, or trucks or motorcyles... and for some reason they pull you guys over?!?! This pisses me off. I don't race my car on the streets, I don't even speed! Cops need to start going after people that drive crazy. Not guys with nice cars.

By the way I have never seen any of the Evos that I've come across in NOVA speeding. All of the guys that I've seen with Evo's drive responsibly. If you guys are getting targeted that is just messed up.

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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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F*ck Em if they can't take a joke, Joke Em if they can't take a f*ck!!!
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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I've not been ticketed for exhaust. I was ticketed for an expired safety inspection, which I did deserve. (Almost 6 months late on getting the inspection done.)

But as I pulled away after getting that ticket, I kept the RPMs real low, like under 1500 RPM. Don't want to draw attention to the 3" Buschur turboback.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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both tickets i've received have gotten thrown out, i show pics at the courthouse that my exhuast is stock. got pics of my cat and muffler on the car. my exhaust is well, you get the point
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Shingen
Not guys with nice cars.
I don't think that they consider our car "nice"... to the average person, it's just another Fast and Furious mobile.

Originally Posted by Shingen
By the way I have never seen any of the Evos that I've come across in NOVA speeding. All of the guys that I've seen with Evo's drive responsibly.
I guess our paths haven't crossed on rt. 7 or 28 yet
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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SterlingEvo
I don't think that they consider our car "nice"... to the average person, it's just another Fast and Furious mobile.
yeah, i get a little self-conscious at work and at stop lights.. oh well!
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Old Dec 25, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MYEVO8U
got a ticket for window tint, but never for exhaust.
You know by VA law you can have window tint as dark as you want on any window except for the windshield and front 2 doors on the Evo, right?

You coould do 35% on the front doors and 5% the rest of the way around and there is nothing they can do to you.

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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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huh? legal limit is 50% in the front doors and 35% in the rear...
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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tru dat, hueman:

Virginia Tint Law Enacted: 1999
HOW DARK CAN WINDOW TINT BE IN VIRGINIA?

Darkness of tint is measured by Visible Light Transmission percentage (VLT%). In Virginia, this percentage refers to percentage of visible light allowed in through the combination of film and the window.

Windshield Non-reflective tint is allowed along the top of the windshield above the manufacturer's AS-1 line.
Front Side Windows Must allow more than 50% of light in.
Back Side Windows Must allow more than 35% of light in.
Rear Window Must allow more than 35% of light in.
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that code doesn't apply to MPV's or vehicles designed for occasional off road use.

Couldn't the argument be made that the Evo is made for off road use, and thereby subject to the same regulations as an MPV vehicle?

State Codes for Window Tint
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by boyd494
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that code doesn't apply to MPV's or vehicles designed for occasional off road use.

Couldn't the argument be made that the Evo is made for off road use, and thereby subject to the same regulations as an MPV vehicle?

State Codes for Window Tint

You're absolutely right.

2004 Virginia Law:



§ 46.2-1052. Tinting films, signs, decals, and stickers on windshields, etc.; penalties.




A. Except as otherwise provided in this article or permitted by federal law, it shall be
unlawful for any person to operate any motor vehicle on a highway with any sign, poster,
colored or tinted film, sun-shading material, or other colored material on the windshield,
front or rear side windows, or rear windows of such motor vehicle. This provision, however,
shall not apply to any certificate or other paper required by law or permitted by the
Superintendent to be placed on a motor vehicle's windshield or window.

The size of stickers or decals used by counties, cities, and towns in lieu of license plates
shall be in compliance with regulations promulgated by the Superintendent. Such stickers
shall be affixed on the windshield at a location designated by the Superintendent.

B. Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, whenever a motor vehicle is
equipped with a mirror on each side of such vehicle, so located as to reflect to the driver
of such vehicle a view of the highway for at least 200 feet to the rear of such vehicle, any
or all of the following shall be lawful:

1. To drive a motor vehicle equipped with one optically grooved clear plastic right-angle
rear view lens attached to one rear window of such motor vehicle, not exceeding 18 inches
in diameter in the case of a circular lens or not exceeding 11 inches by 14 inches in the
case of a rectangular lens, which enables the driver of the motor vehicle to view below the
line of sight as viewed through the rear window;

2. To have affixed to the rear side windows, rear window or windows of a motor vehicle any
sticker or stickers, regardless of size; or

3. To drive a motor vehicle when the driver's clear view of the highway through the rear
window or windows is otherwise obstructed.

C. Except as provided in § 46.2-1053, but notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this
section, no sun-shading or tinting film may be applied or affixed to any window of a motor
vehicle unless such motor vehicle is equipped with a mirror on each side of such motor vehicle,
so located as to reflect to the driver of the vehicle a view of the highway for at least 200
feet to the rear of such vehicle, and the sun-shading or tinting film is applied or affixed in
accordance with the following:

1. No sun-shading or tinting films may be applied or affixed to the rear side windows or rear
window or windows of any motor vehicle operated on the highways of this Commonwealth that
reduce the total light transmittance of such window to less than 35 percent;

2. No sun-shading or tinting films may be applied or affixed to the front side windows of any
motor vehicle operated on the highways of this Commonwealth that reduce total light
transmittance of such window to less than 50 percent;

3. No sun-shading or tinting films shall be applied or affixed to any window of a motor vehicle
that (i) have a reflectance of light exceeding 20 percent or (ii) produce a holographic or prism
effect.

Any person who operates a motor vehicle on the highways of this Commonwealth with sun-shading
or tinting films that (i) have a total light transmittance less than that required by
subdivisions 1 and 2 of this subsection, (ii) have a reflectance of light exceeding 20 percent,
or (iii) produce holographic or prism effects shall be guilty of a traffic infraction but shall
not be awarded any demerit points by the Commissioner for the violation.

Any person or firm who applies or affixes to the windows of any motor vehicle in Virginia sun-
shading or tinting films that (i) reduce the light transmittance to levels less than that allowed
in subdivisions 1 and 2 of this subsection, (ii) have a reflectance of light exceeding 20 percent,
or (iii) produce holographic or prism effects shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor for the
first offense and of a Class 2 misdemeanor for any subsequent offense.

D. The Division of Purchases and Supply, pursuant to § 2.2-1112, shall determine the proper
standards for equipment or devices used to measure light transmittance through windows of motor
vehicles. Law-enforcement officers shall use only such equipment or devices to measure light
transmittance through windows that meet the standards established by the Division. Such
measurements made by law-enforcement officers shall be given a tolerance of minus seven percentage
points.

E. No film or darkening material may be applied on the windshield except to replace the sunshield
in the uppermost area as installed by the manufacturer of the vehicle.

F. Nothing in this section shall prohibit the affixing to the rear window of a motor vehicle
of a single sticker no larger than 20 square inches if such sticker is totally contained within
the lower five inches of the glass of the rear window, nor shall subsection B of this section
apply to a motor vehicle to which but one such sticker is so affixed.

G. Nothing in this section shall prohibit applying to the rear side windows or rear window of
any multipurpose passenger vehicle or pickup truck sun-shading or tinting films that reduce
the total light transmittance of such window or windows below 35 percent.


H. As used in this article:

"Front side windows" means those windows located adjacent to and forward of the driver's seat;

"Holographic effect" means a picture or image that may remain constant or change as the viewing
angle is changed;

"Multipurpose passenger vehicle" means any motor vehicle that is (i) designed to carry no more
than 10 persons and (ii) constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for
occasional off-road use;


"Prism effect" means a visual, iridescent, or rainbow-like effect that separates light into
various colored components that may change depending on viewing angle.

"Rear side windows" means those windows located to the rear of the driver's seat;

"Rear window" or "rear windows" means those windows which are located to the rear of the passenger
compartment of a motor vehicle and which are approximately parallel to the windshield;

I. Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, sun-shading material which was
applied or installed prior to July 1, 1987, in a manner and on which windows not then in violation
of Virginia law, shall continue to be lawful, provided that it can be shown by appropriate receipts
that such material was installed prior to July 1, 1987.

J. Where a person is convicted within one year of a second or subsequent violation of this section
involving the operation of the same vehicle having a tinted or smoked windshield, the court, in
addition to any other penalty, may order the person so convicted to remove such tinted or smoked
windshield from the vehicle.

K. The provisions of this section shall not apply to law-enforcement vehicles.

L. The provisions of subdivision C 1 of this section shall not apply to sight-seeing carriers as
defined in § 46.2-2000 and contract passenger carriers as defined in § 46.2-2000.

(Code 1950, § 46-295; 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-291; 1970, c. 16; 1978, c. 233; 1981, cc. 17, 626;
1985, c. 160; 1987, cc. 298, 315; 1988, c. 751; 1989, c. 727; 1991, cc. 100, 328; 1993, c. 808;
1994, c. 118; 1997, cc. 744, 880; 1998, c. 133; 1999, c. 75; 2004, c. 613.)

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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I'll be damned! That's good to know!
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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I'd love to see someone in court get past a tint ticket with a WRC Manufacturer's rulebook w/the mass-production vehicle rule....
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