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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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TwstdEvo, you can add me in, and I can just about assure you that Al will come if I'm included. If this is in February or later, I will be out there and will need a retune for altitude, so Al will definitely come as long as there are enough paying customers to defray the travel costs. It looks like you already have enough, so it should be no problem.

I agree that it would be a good idea to do it in conjunction with a dyno as long as the price is right. Since Al's new tuning ability and equipment is good enough to get the tune just right for the dyno, it would be best to do the custom tuning on the street, then use the dyno for confirmation of power numbers instead of taking up a lot of time (and $$$) tuning on the dyno. It would be cool to get tuned, then jump on the dyno for a 30-min 3-pull sessions...that would alleviate individual costs.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
TwstdEvo, you can add me in, and I can just about assure you that Al will come if I'm included. If this is in February or later, I will be out there and will need a retune for altitude, so Al will definitely come as long as there are enough paying customers to defray the travel costs. It looks like you already have enough, so it should be no problem.

I agree that it would be a good idea to do it in conjunction with a dyno as long as the price is right. Since Al's new tuning ability and equipment is good enough to get the tune just right for the dyno, it would be best to do the custom tuning on the street, then use the dyno for confirmation of power numbers instead of taking up a lot of time (and $$$) tuning on the dyno. It would be cool to get tuned, then jump on the dyno for a 30-min 3-pull sessions...that would alleviate individual costs.

added to the list. definitely looking to do this feb or later, more likely march. just had a question, i know your close to Al, do you think he would be willing to do an aem tune? there are two people that are looking for this type of tune.

btw, be ready to be disappointed with the altitude, im sure you have seen other posts by me trying to decide on a turbo upgrade. I hate altitude!! lol

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TwStDeVo
added to the list. definitely looking to do this feb or later, more likely march. just had a question, i know your close to Al, do you think he would be willing to do an aem tune? there are two people that are looking for this type of tune.

btw, be ready to be disappointed with the altitude, im sure you have seen other posts by me trying to decide on a turbo upgrade. I hate altitude!! lol
Yes, I do believe Al would be willing to do an AEM EMS tune, since he does them at home on the Pruven dyno, but I do not want to commit him to it until he says so himself.

I'm prepared for the altitude, but I also don't believe it's as bad as people claim. The conversion factors people use on Dynos and at the drag strip are only applicable to N/A cars, but not nearly as much for boosted cars. I know there will be some degradation in performance with the thin air, but the real challenge will be to get the proper boost/tune combination once I get up there. When I have it tuned perfectly at the proper boost, I will then head to PMI to show exactly how much of a loss there is on pump gas (93oct) and race gas (110/112/116 or whatever) in comparison to down here (500' elevation). My goal is to lose no more than .3s and 3mph, but we'll see.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yes, I do believe Al would be willing to do an AEM EMS tune, since he does them at home on the Pruven dyno, but I do not want to commit him to it until he says so himself.

I'm prepared for the altitude, but I also don't believe it's as bad as people claim. The conversion factors people use on Dynos and at the drag strip are only applicable to N/A cars, but not nearly as much for boosted cars. I know there will be some degradation in performance with the thin air, but the real challenge will be to get the proper boost/tune combination once I get up there. When I have it tuned perfectly at the proper boost, I will then head to PMI to show exactly how much of a loss there is on pump gas (93oct) and race gas (110/112/116 or whatever) in comparison to down here (500' elevation). My goal is to lose no more than .3s and 3mph, but we'll see.
I know for a fact that between 91 (they don't sell 93 here) and altitude (bandimere) you won't hit what you are shooting for. I ran my old car here and down at Route 66 speedway in Chicago and I lost almost 6 mph and .6 off my et. Oh and it was a GTI 1.8T with an APR Stage 3 turbo upgrade. I may not be as good of a driver as you, but I am not that bad either. Never ran it in the 100 octane map I had, but I assume it would be similar results. I am excited to see what you can do though and to get some Rocky Mountain EVO presence at events. When are you coming out?
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo13
I know for a fact that between 91 (they don't sell 93 here) and altitude (bandimere) you won't hit what you are shooting for. I ran my old car here and down at Route 66 speedway in Chicago and I lost almost 6 mph and .6 off my et. Oh and it was a GTI 1.8T with an APR Stage 3 turbo upgrade. I may not be as good of a driver as you, but I am not that bad either. Never ran it in the 100 octane map I had, but I assume it would be similar results. I am excited to see what you can do though and to get some Rocky Mountain EVO presence at events. When are you coming out?
93oct is available, so I plan to only use that. There is one station in C-Springs that sells 93, so I'll be using it. If for whatever reason, that dries up or is not really true 93oct, I will either keep my own drum of 100oct for constant mixing with 91, or I will just go ahead and slap on an SMC alky kit. I don't think I'll lose .6s and 6mph, but that's why I'm going to try. I will either be right or wrong.

As soon as we can sell this damn house. We had some potential buyers look at the house twice today, and they said they were very interested in submitting a contract, so hopefully our realtor will call us tomorrow to let us know we have a contract to sign. If so, then we'll be in CO in mid-January. Then, I'll have a few months to get the Rocky Mountain Evo Club up and running before race season begins...
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
93oct is available, so I plan to only use that. There is one station in C-Springs that sells 93, so I'll be using it. If for whatever reason, that dries up or is not really true 93oct, I will either keep my own drum of 100oct for constant mixing with 91, or I will just go ahead and slap on an SMC alky kit. I don't think I'll lose .6s and 6mph, but that's why I'm going to try. I will either be right or wrong.

As soon as we can sell this damn house. We had some potential buyers look at the house twice today, and they said they were very interested in submitting a contract, so hopefully our realtor will call us tomorrow to let us know we have a contract to sign. If so, then we'll be in CO in mid-January. Then, I'll have a few months to get the Rocky Mountain Evo Club up and running before race season begins...
I have the same problem,i live close to the only place that sells 93 in denver(petro stop)and that's all i use,but i'm going with alky just to have more flexablity,plus i'm not really sure if that's really 93
By the way, I'm still on with the tune
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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I am interested as well. I met Warr in Maryland and yes, it will be interesting to see what he thinks of the Rocky mountains. I know I miss the low altitude and good gas desperately. My car was hauling butt in DC and it feels like a boat now in CO.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yes, I do believe Al would be willing to do an AEM EMS tune, since he does them at home on the Pruven dyno, but I do not want to commit him to it until he says so himself.

I'm prepared for the altitude, but I also don't believe it's as bad as people claim. The conversion factors people use on Dynos and at the drag strip are only applicable to N/A cars, but not nearly as much for boosted cars. I know there will be some degradation in performance with the thin air, but the real challenge will be to get the proper boost/tune combination once I get up there. When I have it tuned perfectly at the proper boost, I will then head to PMI to show exactly how much of a loss there is on pump gas (93oct) and race gas (110/112/116 or whatever) in comparison to down here (500' elevation). My goal is to lose no more than .3s and 3mph, but we'll see.
Here's a run that I made at Bandimere and I also used the NDRA altitude correction for FI cars. It's about .4 seconds and just over 4mph.

R/T .264
60' 1.715
330 4.887
1/8 7.493
MPH 95.70
1000 9.684
1/4 11.533
MPH 122.13

Altitude corrected for Bandimere (5800 ft above sea level)
11.122 @ 126.95 MPH


You're going to be very surprided at how much of a difference 6000' makes. I'm looking forward to meeting you sometime this spring at the track. Welcome to Colorado.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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I was guessing around .3s/3mph, so .4s/4mph isn't too bad. I just wasn't sold on the .6s/6mph idea, but again, we'll see. Another thing is I think PMI is only 4300' above sea level, though. Isn't Bandimere a bit higher? I know C-Springs is higher than both Denver and Pueblo, but there is no track there.

Pharmd, we met? Who are you, or which car do you have? Did we meet at MIR or Capitol?
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Yes Bandimere is just short of 6000.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Warrtalon,

I was at the October Dynoflash tuning session in Germantown. My name is Danny and we shook hands when you showed up. I had the red evo that Al made fun of because it was dirty. I was working in Rockville at the time and didn't spend too much time cleaning my car.

Al thought I was crazy for considering a GT35R because he didn't think I would put in the time to take care of it. It was hilarious.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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hm. maybe i should send al another pm. he has not responded to my previous one about tuning an aem. i think we should use the dyno at carz. they are conveniently located off of the highway in denver so it would maximise the amount of people that could come.

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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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I would like to help you guys create the Rocky Mountain Evo Club if I could. We could hold meets here if that would work. I do stock AEM EMS for Evo8's. I am direct with AEM now so I can compete with internet prices. As an Evo owner I don't know of many shops that cater to the Evo's (in denver). Give me some input on what you guys would like to see me stock for parts for the Evo's. When AEM finishes an EMS for the IX, I am going to hopefully go get factory trained.

P.S. Hi David! (strikethree). Thanks for your feedback!
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DenverEvoIX
I would like to help you guys create the Rocky Mountain Evo Club if I could. We could hold meets here if that would work. I do stock AEM EMS for Evo8's. I am direct with AEM now so I can compete with internet prices. As an Evo owner I don't know of many shops that cater to the Evo's (in denver). Give me some input on what you guys would like to see me stock for parts for the Evo's. When AEM finishes an EMS for the IX, I am going to hopefully go get factory trained.

P.S. Hi David! (strikethree). Thanks for your feedback!
Are you a speed shop or something? Gimme details. When I start up the new Club/Forum, I will be soliciting vendor sponsors, and whoever those sponsors are will be the approved and recommended shops for all Evos. I will definitely have Al @ Dynoflash already as a tuning sponsor, so we will be able to get him out to the area more often, but I will need parts vendors, installation shops, and shops with AWD dynos (if one shop has all 3, all the better).
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Yup, I can do all three. You can read my previous posts on page 3 of this thread.
I am a sponsor on a local forum (coloradoracing.net) and have been able to cater to the AWD community for over a year now.
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