Testing of "The One"

"The One" is the new APM Signature Series Driveshaft Unit. A 2 Piece unit with all the essentials. We would like some help from everyone else on here as to the conclusion of testing and the obvious, marketing of the unit. We'd like to know what will be the easier way for us to explain the true nature and potential of the unit.

I get a bid tired of constantly hearing "so how is this actually going to give me power?" With that being said, the response to that has come down to a copy and paste I have from Word as to the hows, whys, where, whens and what not. Something I don't feel like doing as that is a moot point for the creation of such a unit.

So now, we have a huge success with our diffs, trans, t-case and drivesahfts with the racing community, but how can I show the worth of the unit to allow the gen pop to see benefits. The results are there....just all the new school folk that weren't around in the early EARLY Honda days or messed with old school guys the ran muscle take the drivetrain efficiency very lightly. Most of the public forgot that when you build these bad-boy cars, you still need to take advantage of the possibility to shed weight.

Even when you have something stock (our parts car..evo 8 with an MR trans and an SE interior) has the things like the Diff mod, T-case mod, Lightened whatever wherever. Things like this make the car that much more enjoyable.

What's the point of building a 600hp car when you can't put the power down or when you do you start breaking stuff. This is also where the shaft come into play because having the higher critical speeds and different material being used, you able to promote less shock to drivetrain components. This alone will help you from breaking things at the track due to pliability of some materials.

That being said, one can obviously see that the old school mindset with the technology of today can go way farther then some computer and tune and what not. Why this thought works here....you don't need to tune, you don't need a degree to install the unit, all hardware and accessories are supplied and it's a direct fit. No shimming like some other units out there. There are AUTOMATIC gains from this product.

The way we think has been working thus far being the most simple of concepts can really have the most effectiveness.

Now let me ask you guys as a community, the only real results that can be seen is a before and after dyno test. The thing with that is numbers can always vary (time of year, fuel consistency and temp.) so off the bat the "tests" can be variable themselves.

Wouldn't it be better to have an equation of power based on weight, percentage and wheel hp gain of a mean value instead of one car.

Of course that one car will be the dom number of a fraction so test are based of an equal party and results have a parent number and fraction to work from. But what if there is a pairing of products such as the APM diff mod and T-Case service that will inflate the numbers that are put to the ground.

I personally don't think it's fair as a consumer and manufacturer of products (that's what most companies do...CHEAT) to put a product out on the market with the notion that the end result will have such a variance.

Of course we'll still put these numbers up but would a standard equation be easier to work with for you guys as consumers.

ex. (weight of OEM) X-(weight of APM)Y=(weight savings)Z (convert to percentage) [X-Y=Z]
ex. (power to wheel OEM)Ax(weight savings converted to percentage)Z=(new power output to the wheels*) B [AxZ=B]

Then you can obviously deduce the factors by doing it backwards.

400hp car x .20 = 80hp (480whp)

(JUST AN EXAMPLE)

Also, due to the materials, machining, labor for production and what not, there isn't a huge dollar amount that gets made from a unit like this (not sent to China and reproduced, all american made with american purchased materials and tools). So compatible to other companies that produce shafts (even though not one in the world is like this one) the price for the unit is at 1400.00 (1250 introductory) standard. We can't Mcguiver much more out of the price for the unit but the way we see it, for the results and gains netted, it's fair. It's way cheaper then a couple we've seen and the testing of those products didn't actually conclude with what you think you had paid for.

So please, let us know if you the consumer can help us out with this situation. Let me know what everyone thinks so that when we conclude the testing of the APM "The One" Driveshaft.

(This thread is on another forum as well if anyone asks)

 

First of all, if I'd know about this prior to Feb 1st I'd have it in the car. And I'd have dyno results for the world. Damn...

Man, that's a lot of info. Appreciate the thought out description. I was talking to another company last fall about their lightweight 2-peice driveshaft but due to delays I couldn't get the unit to me to install with my upgraded rear diff. Like you said, I wasn't completely convinced it was going to make the car accelerate better but I was willing to give it a shot.

The dyno might be about the easiest and more irreputable tool. Obviously with all runs using the same smoothing and corrections factors.

 

Thanks bud, true about the dyno. Only because we have to sub-contract (until our dyno is installed) would be the only reason why the temps would be off (being that we'd need to drive to our facility, install it then drive back) but beyond that, it seems as it's the easiest way. The other forum guys were talking about the engine dyno being done first to acknowledge the crank hp numbers but if the equation is correct then thats an obsolete figure.

So, what shaft are you using currently? If it's a stock front section then I know who's it is but I didn't think they made one for the 8/9?

By the way, how'd the track event go? how was it? spill the beans man, always interested to hear how the runs were !!!

 

Final testing is underway, then the next shaft is going on the chopping block....can't wait for that one.

 

any words?

 

I finished the Carbon one...I'll pm you either way sir.

-Mark

 

I'll gladly take one to test when I stop in for that Synapse. haha