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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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FP Red upgrade

Ok doing the math here. Wouldnt it be almost the same price to buy a new FP Red from FP (2500) or buying a stock turbo ($300 more or less) and $1900 to convert plus shipping and upgraded wastegate? Feels like i'm missing something here lol. Thanks for any input guys and gals
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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Ok doing the math here. Wouldnt it be almost the same price to buy a new FP Red from FP (2500) or buying a stock turbo ($300 more or less) and $1900 to convert plus shipping and upgraded wastegate? Feels like i'm missing something here lol. Thanks for any input guys and gals
$300 for a stock turbo? Sweet hook me up too... did it fall off a truck somewhere or is this a friend cutting you a hell of a deal?
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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$300 for a stock turbo? Sweet hook me up too... did it fall off a truck somewhere or is this a friend cutting you a hell of a deal?
lol thats why i said more or less lmao. I saw one for $350 but we all know we can get it for around $300. But all in all buying a used turbo to not eat the down time of your car plus shipping there and back plus buying the FP Oil line that comes with a new BB Red i think it's better to just go new and have a better piece of mind
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:23 AM
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Have you looked at MAP EF series turbos?

Much cheaper than FP turbos http://www.maperformance.com/evo-x-turbo-kits/
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Have you looked at MAP EF series turbos?

Much cheaper than FP turbos http://www.maperformance.com/evo-x-turbo-kits/
You know i have briefly looked at them but the Ball Bearing of the Red seems to be pulling me more towards the Red. There is not too much reviews also on the MAP Turbo on the Evo X as the Red or versus the red.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Supraboy1
$300 for a stock turbo? Sweet hook me up too... did it fall off a truck somewhere or is this a friend cutting you a hell of a deal?
buahaha lol
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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Have you looked at MAP EF series turbos?

Much cheaper than FP turbos http://www.maperformance.com/evo-x-turbo-kits/
Ball Bearing VS Journal. Why the price difference.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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The MAP ef4 does extremely well. We have installed many with great results. FP makes a great turbo but saving some money and applying it to other mods has made many happy customers.

Shoot us a PM and we can work out some outstanding pricing!

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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by superk1980
lol thats why i said more or less lmao. I saw one for $350 but we all know we can get it for around $300. But all in all buying a used turbo to not eat the down time of your car plus shipping there and back plus buying the FP Oil line that comes with a new BB Red i think it's better to just go new and have a better piece of mind
i got mine from dino at speed circuit for $400. I had a BB FP Red, sold it because i planned on going with a BB FP Black when my engine blew. But now im planning on sending my stock turbo in to get made into a Red..lol.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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The MAP ef4 does extremely well. We have installed many with great results. FP makes a great turbo but saving some money and applying it to other mods has made many happy customers.
Just curious, why did you all decide to go with the smaller Kelfords or is the Dyno sheet just labeled wrong?
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:01 PM
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i got mine from dino at speed circuit for $400. I had a BB FP Red, sold it because i planned on going with a BB FP Black when my engine blew. But now im planning on sending my stock turbo in to get made into a Red..lol.
Lol yea the FP Red seems like the best all around setup short from going T3. It really would come up close to the same price so unless i get a stock turbo for super cheap it probably best just to buy it new outright
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Some one correct me I I'm wrong but when comparing the red to ef3 persay from whatbive gathered the red will spool faster but te ef3 I think is slightly bigger and flows a little more so power will be slightly more on an ef3 but again spool is slightly slower being a jb vs bb I have an ef3 and like it save me a little extra so I can get some toxic fab stuff but that's just my 2 cents but ten again this is for a x im not very familiar with those I'm goin of the 8/9 platform
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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Some one correct me I I'm wrong but when comparing the red to ef3 persay from whatbive gathered the red will spool faster but te ef3 I think is slightly bigger and flows a little more so power will be slightly more on an ef3 but again spool is slightly slower being a jb vs bb I have an ef3 and like it save me a little extra so I can get some toxic fab stuff but that's just my 2 cents but ten again this is for a x im not very familiar with those I'm goin of the 8/9 platform

not really sure of the specs of the ef3 but if the ef3 does make more power, its useless on a stock block. I made 431hp 382trq on my FP Red and that was at 26psi. Not even close to maxing it out. So unless you have a built engine that extra flow/power you get with ef3 is kinda pointless.
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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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The customer purchased the Kelford S1's prior to anticipating a turbo upgrade in his near future.

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Old Oct 29, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Snakes709
not really sure of the specs of the ef3 but if the ef3 does make more power, its useless on a stock block. I made 431hp 382trq on my FP Red and that was at 26psi. Not even close to maxing it out. So unless you have a built engine that extra flow/power you get with ef3 is kinda pointless.
^^ and thats what i'm scared about. I want to be happy with the spool and still have decent top end power. I looked at the green also but i think i will need more later so red just seems to be calling my name lol. this will be going on a 2011 Evo X. I used to own a 05 RS with a Greddy T67 turbo kit and hated the lag. Top end was nice but i drive my car more on the streets and occasionally autocross events where quick spool is crucial for happiness
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