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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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SST - Down shifting

Hey Guys,

Just wondering.....I have a question with regards to the time involved when you you shift the paddle shifter ( or floor shifter) to the time the \SST actually shifts its gear. I am not questioning the speed of the actual shift ( which is lightening fast) but the time involved from human input to actual gear change.

Since just about day one I have noticed a good 1 second DELAY from selecting the gear via paddle or floor shifter to the actual gear change, it is more apparent from gears 1 to 3 starting from a standhill. Is that a problem? or am I just being too picky. I wanted to know if you RA owners out there have this same situation. I would not say its a problem but I really wanted to find out if this is the same experience with you guys out there. Based on what i hear on this site here, i may go the dealer to bring up the issue.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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That's just how it is, takes a second to go into gear.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 08Lancer89
That's just how it is, takes a second to go into gear.
Hmm so that 1 second delay is what a manual shifter has on us. Does that even out the playing field between total shift times. You would think that there may be a fix for that ( thinking that its electronic) No to be an *** or anything but what good is a super quick dual cluth tranny is if when you ask for the gear change its takes a a good second..
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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What are you talking about? If you try and short shift it will delay to a certain rpm. Other than that, when I hit the paddle it shifts immediately.

Normal or Sport mode? Under load or coasting along?
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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What are you talking about? If you try and short shift it will delay to a certain rpm. Other than that, when I hit the paddle it shifts immediately.

Normal or Sport mode? Under load or coasting along?
same here
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by elpoole
What are you talking about? If you try and short shift it will delay to a certain rpm. Other than that, when I hit the paddle it shifts immediately.

Normal or Sport mode? Under load or coasting along?
In this case its under normal mode. No short shifting. No coasting. At the lights for example you give it 3/4 gas rpm hits say..5500 and you shift from 1st and then to second when the rpm hits 5500 again and then to third again when rpm climbs up. There is a brief but distinct second delay from when you hit the paddle shifter to the time the gear actually changes. Are you telling me that you have absolutely no delay? (I am not talking about the actual gear change) I am trying to distinguish the different types of experiences you guys may have versus one RA owner to another. 08lancer89 had responded saying that thats just the way it is....I was content with that answer until you mentioned that you have virtually no delay.....

For the record there is no delay if you do not gas it hard but there is one if exercise most of your right foot of the line.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 08Lancer89
same here
So....do you experience a delay or not..... you had just mentioned that its just the way it is.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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In normal mode there is a delay under load. Its not a full second. It very closely reminds me of a casual manual shift. In sport. mode it shifts on demand.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by elpoole
In normal mode there is a delay under load. Its not a full second. It very closely reminds me of a casual manual shift. In sport. mode it shifts on demand.
No, your right. In sport mode its good. I was just thinking.....why the delay. You figure if its all electronic then it should kinda be immediate. I know that the sport mode executes the actual gear change even faster but all said and done its the best dual clutch/tranny out there.

Thanks for your input I guess what I am experiencing is norman then.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elpoole
In normal mode there is a delay under load. Its not a full second. It very closely reminds me of a casual manual shift. In sport. mode it shifts on demand.
this is what I experince
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Have a peek at this thread. It's on the EVO MR, but same gearbox:

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13197
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Just because its electronic doesn't mean there is no delay. You still have to have time for the clutch to engage and switch gears.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Just because its electronic doesn't mean there is no delay. You still have to have time for the clutch to engage and switch gears.
It doesn't need to disengage a clutch to select the next gear - two gears are already selected at all times. All it needs to do is release one clutch and engage the other.

The issue described in this thread and the one linked above is about the delay before the command to shift is executed - NOT how long it takes to actually switch clutches. It's not about a slow shift but rather am intermittent delay before the shift is initiated.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Either way, it's going to take time to shift
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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I feel the same. The 'actual shift' is excellent quick especially in Sport mode, but I am disappointed in the delay between when I 'want' it to shift and when it actually does when I touch the paddle. Under throttle load it is possible to be in the red line even though I have pulled the paddle well before the tach needle has reached it and when the computer finally tells the transmission to do it's thing. I find I am 'anticipating' the delay when it will shift in addition to my brain saying ok pull the paddle.
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