Philamthebest's SSP Rebuild
Jan 28, 2010, 02:44 PM
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SST has a self protection mode that engages when too much power is detected (TCU controlled, not ECU). He was making enough power to trigger this self protection mode which basically disengages the clutches and lets the motor free-rev; it happened while he was doing a full throttle pull and the motor blew as soon as the transmission gave out.
It's all about how much torque the TCU detects.. you make too much torque and you could be getting into trouble. There are people researching the re-programming of the TCU but no progress has been released or announced yet... hopefully soon.
Feb 9, 2010, 12:40 AM
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SST has a self protection mode that engages when too much power is detected (TCU controlled, not ECU). He was making enough power to trigger this self protection mode which basically disengages the clutches and lets the motor free-rev; it happened while he was doing a full throttle pull and the motor blew as soon as the transmission gave out.
It's all about how much torque the TCU detects.. you make too much torque and you could be getting into trouble. There are people researching the re-programming of the TCU but no progress has been released or announced yet... hopefully soon.
It's all about how much torque the TCU detects.. you make too much torque and you could be getting into trouble. There are people researching the re-programming of the TCU but no progress has been released or announced yet... hopefully soon.
I've seen the clutch packs open on the dyno. Upping these tables accordingly stop this from happening. If this is the same car I am thinking, the tables where stock at the time.
There are also clutch A/B clamp tables in the ECU as well as a couple other tables and I am sure others that have not been found yet.
- Bryan
Feb 11, 2010, 02:40 PM
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This happens to me when my car throws the p1235 code. Had it happen to me just day before yesterday. Jumped on the freeway, smashed the gas in 4th gear, RPMs went from 4k just as turbo started to spool, code was thrown putting the transmission into LIMP, then the clutch disengaged, sending the RPMs smashing against the rev limiter. It's the 3rd time it's happened to me.
Feb 14, 2010, 10:50 AM
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Please give me a ride in your car when I'm in Ill. (Chicago I go there once a year) ! No I don't think your engine will blow after this, I have a friend who has an MR and an FP red turbo and DDs and Track races it (he has an SSP deep pan and oil cooler kit), I may tell him to chime in on this thread but he's been on it 6+ months with no problems. I do think that what everyone is hot to talk about (hot subject right now) is TCU reprogramming. Since it seems neither Mitsubishi nor Getrag will release any tools whatsoever, and not much gets leaked, it's all the tuners and privateers figuring it out. Just a matter of time
I myself have experienced limp mode where the engine and the SST transmission get "decoupled" and the tranny lets the engine rev freely, but the rev limiter is still there. Sure it sounds dangerous (for the engine) and in my opinion the SST shouldn't do this, it's completely unsafe for this to happen, especially when you are on the fwy, but hey thats why TCU reprogramming is the hot subject !!!
Feb 14, 2010, 11:29 AM
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Let me be the 1st to say, Good job Philam! Please give me a ride in your car when I'm in Ill. (Chicago I go there once a year) !
No I don't think your engine will blow after this, I have a friend who has an MR and an FP red turbo and DDs and Track races it (he has an SSP deep pan and oil cooler kit), I may tell him to chime in on this thread but he's been on it 6+ months with no problems. I do think that what everyone is hot to talk about (hot subject right now) is TCU reprogramming. Since it seems neither Mitsubishi nor Getrag will release any tools whatsoever, and not much gets leaked, it's all the tuners and privateers figuring it out. Just a matter of time
I myself have experienced limp mode where the engine and the SST transmission get "decoupled" and the tranny lets the engine rev freely, but the rev limiter is still there. Sure it sounds dangerous (for the engine) and in my opinion the SST shouldn't do this, it's completely unsafe for this to happen, especially when you are on the fwy, but hey thats why TCU reprogramming is the hot subject !!!
Please give me a ride in your car when I'm in Ill. (Chicago I go there once a year) ! No I don't think your engine will blow after this, I have a friend who has an MR and an FP red turbo and DDs and Track races it (he has an SSP deep pan and oil cooler kit), I may tell him to chime in on this thread but he's been on it 6+ months with no problems. I do think that what everyone is hot to talk about (hot subject right now) is TCU reprogramming. Since it seems neither Mitsubishi nor Getrag will release any tools whatsoever, and not much gets leaked, it's all the tuners and privateers figuring it out. Just a matter of time
I myself have experienced limp mode where the engine and the SST transmission get "decoupled" and the tranny lets the engine rev freely, but the rev limiter is still there. Sure it sounds dangerous (for the engine) and in my opinion the SST shouldn't do this, it's completely unsafe for this to happen, especially when you are on the fwy, but hey thats why TCU reprogramming is the hot subject !!!
... I'm feeling more confident about the MR's now i have done my upgrades, but i'm not too familiar with the interior of the SST or even the software all that much. But i do worry about the MR's being weaker, but if i'm going to blow an engine then what is stopping all the gsrs with an FP Red blowing up as well, we are all using the 4B11.... I think once the car comes back to me (which should be a couple of weeks) i will need a new MAF sensor as my car seems to be shifting through the gears still.... But i will keep you informed...Also i have included a few pictures of the Deep Transmission pan...
Feb 16, 2010, 05:54 PM
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