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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tuwbobudday
Noenoe, what numbers are you pushing?

We have Authorized Dealers/Install shops located all over the world so give me give me a call directly at 443-636-0530 and we can go over your different options.


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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tuwbobudday
Noenoe, what numbers are you pushing?
The 91 here in my country is not the same as in us. The power herenis much lower. The humidity level was about 65 percent. Pusing about 400whp.
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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I cannot recommend the 400HP clutch kit enough. With new programming and the full-face organic kit with kevlar discs, this car should be ready to rip. Another thing is to make sure that peak torque doesn't come in until AT MINIMUM 3000 RPMS.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SSP Jeremy
Our 500 hp clutch packs have been in my 540 whp X MR Time Attack car for about 20,000+ hard race miles with virtually zero signs of wear.

Check this thread for more details: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/mi...-part-2-a.html




Clutch pack information:

400 hp clutches are a standard 8 pack clutch set up with a 500 mile break in period.

500 hp clutches are a standard 8 pack clutch set up with Pre-treated steel that require no break in time.

600 hp clutches are a 10 pack clutch set up with Pre-treated steels that require no break in time. The two extra steels, and friction plates allow for greater HP and TQ holding capacity over the standard 8 pack set up.


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Hi Jeremy,

I have a full bolt ons evo X TC-SST. Don't know about HP it puts out, but am trying to E-tune it and just found out that the there's a gear slip (normal mode) I'll try doing a pull with the super sport mode.am planning for the 600 hp pack. Questions, How do I know if my stock clutches needs to be changed? How much is the average cost of installing them? What do you mean by "break in period" ? Is there anything you can help me with or tell me that might be helpful?

Thanks,
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Thelma515
Noenoe, what numbers are you pushing?
I was expecting to be around 450-460 whp ish. My current power is only 395whp.
Maybe later if I'm using c16 gas the number will be close to 500whp!
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by darxide
Hi Jeremy,

I have a full bolt ons evo X TC-SST. Don't know about HP it puts out, but am trying to E-tune it and just found out that the there's a gear slip (normal mode) I'll try doing a pull with the super sport mode.am planning for the 600 hp pack. Questions, How do I know if my stock clutches needs to be changed? How much is the average cost of installing them? What do you mean by "break in period" ? Is there anything you can help me with or tell me that might be helpful?

Thanks,

While I would love to sell you a set of clutch packs I would make sure you have the tuning side covered first. A tuning related issue can 110% mimic a mechanical problem like clutch slippage. And to be honest with you about 50% off the time it IS a tuning issue and NOT the actual clutch disks failing.

When's the last time you changed your transmission filter ?

With full boltons and a proper tune you shouldn't be maxing out the oem clutches or experiencing clutch slippage barring you don't have 75,000+ miles on your car.

Average cost for R&R of the transmission and clutch install is going to be around $1,500 - 2,000 (USD) depending on shop rates.

There is no typical break in period needed like a manual clutch. You're looking at 100-200 miles at most, but most of the time those break in miles get sorted out on the dyno when tuning.

I would HIGHLY suggest contacting a tuner that specializes in the X MR/Ralliart Platform if you have not done so already. JUST because a tuner is good with the GSR or other platforms it does NOT mean they can tune the SST.


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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bsvaton
I know if done properly there is supposed to be an adjustment to a clutch table in the software also. I am just interested in the actual feel of everything after done. Also wondering how long it will last compared to a stock clutch. I know I should feel a hugh difference because the clutch in a RA is smaller than the MR stock. I just never hear anything about this besides pictures of it actually being done. After it is completed though I dont see any reviews.
There are ALOT of adjustments to be made in the transmission mapping on the tune. They will last longer than OEM clutches due to material design. The RA Clutches are the same as the MR clutches, in size, materials, etc at least from what we have installed, inspected and replaced here.

Originally Posted by Hiboost
I just got off the Dyno at STM, and apparently I'm making too much power for the setup or the 500 HP clutchpacks need a longer break in period. Part of the issue seems to be that at only 24 psi I'm already at 305 load and typically aiming for 290 load for peak torque is better for best clutch pressure. The car is crazy fast for the amount of boost being run so I'm going to get some miles on it and try again in a couple days.

Any tips besides tweaking the maps for best clutch pressure? I'm gong to rework the tune to lower load values and maybe soften up the boost hit from 3500-5000 to see if that helps. Seems this BW S300SX FMW Turbo (74 Lbs/min Flow) is a monster and the Buscur 2.2L 1BAMF engine with stage 3 ported head and AMS TMP cams is putting down some power.

Now I just need the SST trans to go along with the party!
Originally Posted by EmeryatSTM
Its not too much power. Something either needs to be broken in our adjusted. The wheels only put down 300 ft lbs. So at 300 ft lbs the clutch slipped. You might be making more power than that but the clutches only held that much so far.

-Em
How many miles are on them now? We usually need at least 200 miles on any clutch kit offered by SSP (400,500,600s etc) before they can really handle any torque, 500 miles are higher TQ applications.

Also, what did you end up with for stack height clearances when they were installed? It can also be that the stack is too loose.

Originally Posted by Hiboost
Good to know the reference point on the dyno runs we tried, luckily the car is moving right along at 50% tps at 20-21 psi with no slip after some adjustment, as confirmed on my favorite back test road. I believe there is some predictive calculations going on in the ECU as well so when it sees torque ramp up at a certain rate it just opens up the clutchpacks as opposed to letting them slightly slip. Most of the SST tables were similar to how they were on the GT30 combo so it was at least in the same neighborhood as that torque wise, hard to really pin down any torque numbers from the dyno if the ECU opened the clutchpacks prematurely.

SSP has worked with me some more on the ECU tuning so that I can fast track to the most aggressive settings that we'll probably need for this engine/turbo combo. I'll see you at STM shortly for alignment and then a re-visit on the dyno, should be much more productive!
Have you talked to Eric (kozmic27) on this? I see you are referring to ECU discussion with SSP, so I figured you are talking with Eric. I am sure he would be happy to guide you in the right direction with trans tables. However its only half the battle.

Most fail to realize that the stack height, not pinching a seal or o-ring, even the C-Clips that hold the basket on are different from side to side and can mess up the engagement and clamping force on the clutches. Once all of that is 100%, then the tuning and break-in is all the rest.

Hiboost, I know you have the tuning side of things under control, but regarding another post in this thread about E-tune on an SST...We do offer E-Tunes for customers as well as Transmission Mapping for the customers who would like another shop to tune the car that is familiar with the X, just not the SST.
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Old Mar 21, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Good luck !!
Keep us updated !!
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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What would be the max tourqe on 500 hp clutch plates if normal is between 340-360?

Thanks every1
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