After classing my car for TT this past weekend, I agree with the statement above - +2 for the pump, +7 for the modified turbo, and +1 for the airbox removal.

 

Wow, you agree with +7 for a ported hotside (negligible power difference) as the equivalent to a GT35r (or any actual turbo upgrade)? That's not good (for me).

 

Unfortunately, modified is modified. Obviously the gains are not the same but unless there is a re-write to specifically cover porting only, all turbo modifications and upgrades are lumped together. There are some things better left alone unless you go all the way (of course hindsight is always 20/20...). I will ask my regional TT director this weekend about this specifically and see what he says, but right now if it were my call it would be 7 points.

 

I agree with you Greg, a ported turbo is considered a modified turbo although the gains may not be that of doing a full turbo swap ... as you said "modified is modified" ...

 

I understand the based on the definition, but logically speaking, there's no way it should be the same penalty just like how a modified manifold doesn't cost you as much as a header. I would need to find out the reasoning behind including "modified stock turbo" in with upgraded turbo to see if there was a specific reason or if it was just an oversight. I can see 1 point MAYBE, but not 7, and I doubt that was their intention, although that doesn't necessarily help me at this point.

 

You don't get to selectively chose which rules you follow based on whether or not you agree with them or your personal concept of their fairness. As pointed out by others, if you want to take FULL advantage of the +7 points assesed for the modified or upgraded turbo allowance rule, you need to buy a huge-*** turbo. If you don't want to be assessed the +7 points, trade your ported and coated turbo for a stock one + cash. According to you, the ported turbo gives minimal gains anyway, right?

 

That's obvious - I know I can just put on a stock hotside - that's all it is, not the whole turbo. But, it's just a senseless thing to have to do, and the point of it is NOT for the power gains to begin with, which is why I was trying to gain clarification first. I highly doubt they meant to charge someone 7 points for doing something that doesn't even add power. I mean, that's obvious, isn't it? If you only charge 1-2 points for headers, intake, cams, etc, then you obviously don't mean to charge 7 for something that makes less power than all of those. Likewise, there is NO points charge for an upgraded IC, which is a pretty important mod for road racing and far more important than a ported stock turbine housing.

When the time comes, I can just put on a stock unported 10.5 hotside, but it would be preferable if I could keep the one I have mainly because of the ceramic coating.

 

The regional TT group leader has the authority to adjust your points to take into account the lightly modified turbo, I would request an assessment.

The fuel pump is two points because older FI systems can regulate flow just by changing fuel pressure, such as bosch-k on a 1st gen GTI. Again, since it doesn't do anything for an evo with stock injectors, you may be able to have the regional admin assess your particular situation.

 

Dave, thanks for the input. I'm quite sure I could get provisions from my regional Director, but I was more concerned with when I compete in other regions or Nationals. I'm not worried at all about my region.