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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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No one is smoking anything. I am just relaying to you my experiences with the 2 tires. If you dont beleive me then thats your problem. The ao46 for one had longer lasting grip and they werent getting shredded up on the track. The ra1 were losing tracting after about 10min on the track and they were shredding in huge chunks of rubber. By the time the day was over my friend needed new tires. And they were basically brand new before we started. However, I was on my stockers I went to the track at 5000miles on the tires and after the event i barely went through any tread. And I had retained my grip longer on the track than the r comps.

The only tire that I saw outperform was the ao48 which was a r comp. That tire performed great.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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So your friend over-drove brand new full tread RA-1's and chunked them. That has no bearing on the imagined better grip of the A046's, and a direct relation to your friends driving ability. I can destroy a set on new r-comps in one day too, if I was so inclined. The rest of the world however has had very good results with the RA-1 in particular, and in the hands of someone that knows what they are doing the RA-1 will be faster and last longer than the A046 100 times out of 100. Why do you think the RA-1 is a spec tire in so many racing classes - because it's junk?
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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lol, ur friend need to learn how to drive. is not that i dont beleive u, is just not truth. false info just hurts everyone.

Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
No one is smoking anything. I am just relaying to you my experiences with the 2 tires. If you dont beleive me then thats your problem. The ao46 for one had longer lasting grip and they werent getting shredded up on the track. The ra1 were losing tracting after about 10min on the track and they were shredding in huge chunks of rubber. By the time the day was over my friend needed new tires. And they were basically brand new before we started. However, I was on my stockers I went to the track at 5000miles on the tires and after the event i barely went through any tread. And I had retained my grip longer on the track than the r comps.

The only tire that I saw outperform was the ao48 which was a r comp. That tire performed great.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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So your friend over-drove brand new full tread RA-1's and chunked them. That has no bearing on the imagined better grip of the A046's, and a direct relation to your friends driving ability. I can destroy a set on new r-comps in one day too, if I was so inclined. The rest of the world however has had very good results with the RA-1 in particular, and in the hands of someone that knows what they are doing the RA-1 will be faster and last longer than the A046 100 times out of 100. Why do you think the RA-1 is a spec tire in so many racing classes - because it's junk?
You people are overtly defensive. First off, I never said that the ra1 were junk. Second I never said they were a lesser or a greater of a tire. I beleive I plainly conversed to everyone my experiences with them. Furthermore, I also beleive I said that yes the ao46(for what it is) is the best tire for the evo. You and everyone else ASSumed that I was referring in a circuit only aspect. Well you and everyone else is wrong. Please think before you post.
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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I hate people that dont know what they r talking about but loves to argue. ok, u r right, We r all wrong. from the video we look at, we r talking about street driving. the advans is the best tires for the evo, happy now

u really need to do some searching before posting. false info hurt everyone. what if u r looking for info on some problem with ur car and someone give u wrong info and u blow ur engine. how would u feel then?

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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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^Yeah I know I hate that too. The only problem here is I do know what I am talking about. And the stock advans is one of the best all around tire applications for the evo. Also I just said that the ao48 which are r comps out performed the stockers.

I told u in this particular case(meaning temp, track layout, time of run) the ra1 may not be the best tire for this type of feat. There are alot of variables in determining what kind of tire should be used. Just because they are r comps doesnt mean its going to be the best tire. From the vid seen I would say with that type of track layout and the weather I would definitely use a medium r comp. However, the advan ao46 will perform great too.

I and warrtalon have been helping many people with their setups and mod questions for awhile now. I have also been helping people how to drive their car too. Furthermore I can attribute most of what I know about the evo to warrtalon. I have also spent less than 1300 and have 7.7sec 1/8mile with a 1.71 60ft I think I know a little bit of what I am talking about.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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I am sorry but u r wrong, please research more. I am done, good luck with ur advans.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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You've learned a lot, Skilmatic, and did well at the drag strip, but the bottom line is that the A046 cannot compare to the RA-1 regardless of the track or conditions. ON the same car with same driver, the RA-1s will be faster, bottom line. The problem is that you went once and saw something happen where it made you think the A046s were better than they are while making you think the RA-1s aren't as good as they are. After doing many events, you'd see otherwise.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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I think the problem here is your friend ran full tread RA1s, which, IMHO, aren't much better then the best street tires. They squirm, overheat fast and can crumble tread blocks. Full tread RA1s are for tracking in the rain. It is recommended to shave the RA1s, like most Rcompounds that come with tread blocks, for dry tarmac usage.

You friend asked too much of the tire at full tread depth and did not prepare them correctly.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
You've learned a lot, Skilmatic, and did well at the drag strip, but the bottom line is that the A046 cannot compare to the RA-1 regardless of the track or conditions. ON the same car with same driver, the RA-1s will be faster, bottom line. The problem is that you went once and saw something happen where it made you think the A046s were better than they are while making you think the RA-1s aren't as good as they are. After doing many events, you'd see otherwise.
Granted, I am going to willowsprings a few more tuimes in the upcoming winter. So I guess I will see how they perform again. Thsi time my buddy got them heat cycled so I knwo that will prolly help. However, I figure that driving up to the track would do that for him considering we live in san diego. However, it will be interesting to see what happens next.

I do like the r comp ao48. Those tires kicked a$$ at willow even in the rediculous heat.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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HEat cycling is a process - it's more than just driving them to the track. They have to sit for a day or two after being properly heat cycled, then they work. The RA-1s mainly need to be shaved to have the proper tread depth so that they do not chunk and so that they perform well. RA-1s work better as they wear, but they don't work good at all if they get abused/chunked early in their life.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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RA1s do not need to be heat cycled. Save your money and just get them shaved.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
RA1s do not need to be heat cycled. Save your money and just get them shaved.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Yah, like maybe some All-Season Michelins?
lol That is the guy ranting about thoses isnt it.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Looking forward to seeing if 275 hoosiers are actually faster than my RA-1's next weekend at NASA time trials. Even though they should be, I"m not convinced yet..
I have tested hoosiers and RA1s and the Hoosiers are about 2 seconds per lap faster on a semi-technical track. The problem with the Hoosiers is that they are expensive and have almost half the life as the RA1s. Also the Hoosiers have a huge drop in grip once they get used up. It is very scary to drive on worn Hoosiers. RA1s are more consistent throughout their life. I have raced door-to-door on worn out flat spotted RA1s. I would not dare do that on Hoosiers.
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