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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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I really like the Raybestos ST41 front and ST42 rear for track only config. Info here: http://livermoreperformance.com/raybestos.html

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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Whatever you choose - go for the top compound. On the track your car needs it = esp. on R-comps.
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Old Aug 31, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOBrakes
Whatever you choose - go for the top compound. On the track your car needs it = esp. on R-comps.
+1 and don't forget about top brake fluid, castrol SRF is great but $$. I use to use it but I've switch to BM Brake fluid, much cheaper and no issues.
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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I run Ferodo DS3000's up front and DS2500's in the rear. Great set up and well balanced. Not a big fan of the 2500's up front. My observations are they're basically like the stock Brembo pads with a little more noise and a lot more brake dust. I get one full lap on 2500's (on the front) before they start to fade (like the stock pads do). This is with Stainless lines and fresh Motul 600 before every track event.
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 05 MR
I run Ferodo DS3000's up front and DS2500's in the rear. Great set up and well balanced. Not a big fan of the 2500's up front. My observations are they're basically like the stock Brembo pads with a little more noise and a lot more brake dust. I get one full lap on 2500's (on the front) before they start to fade (like the stock pads do). This is with Stainless lines and fresh Motul 600 before every track event.
yeah, but pad fade has nothing to do with boiling fluid, fresh fluid, or stainless lines..

you're just over-heating the pads and turning them to garbage.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Couldn't agree more. That’s why I now use the DS3000's up front.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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I have purchased my last few sets of track pads here:

http://raceshopper.com/

The have excellent descriptions of the characterisitics of high-temp pads from several manufacturers, and their prices are competitive.

For hard driving at the track, my favorite pads on the front are the new Hawk DTC-70. They are a bit more expensive, but they really let me brake late and hard in all corners, all day long. They wear well and don't chew the rotors too badly. I run Hawk Blue on the back. Typically a set of front pads will last about four track days (I'm an instructor for BMW and Audi club driving schools) but I can get about 15 days on the rears. I think that's to be expected, since the front brakes do about 80% of the work.

I have also used Cobalt Friction Spec VR, Hawk HT-10, Performance Friction 93, and Ferodo DS3000. They're okay, but not as good as the Hawk DTC-70.

I'v found that increasing air flow to the front rotors really helps performance and reduces wear. The new MRs have brake cooling air ducts on the front. Some older models might have them as well. I highly recommend these type of ducts for any car that goes to the track. Cooler brakes are better!
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Can someone comment on PFC-01 vs. PFC-97

And also can someone comment on PFC-01/97 vs. Carbotech XP11?

I currently use Carbotech XP11s in the front, they're great but I need to replace them and am wondering about how the PFCs compare.

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Also where the hell can I buy PFC pads
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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I purchased my PF 01's from HRPworld.com, but won't be tracking them until the end of the month. I just finished with the Carbotech XP12's and had used the PF 97's earlier in the year. I'll give feedback after I use them.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsurara
Can someone comment on PFC-01 vs. PFC-97

And also can someone comment on PFC-01/97 vs. Carbotech XP11?

I currently use Carbotech XP11s in the front, they're great but I need to replace them and am wondering about how the PFCs compare.

Thanks!

Also where the hell can I buy PFC pads
raceshopper.com has links to pad descriptions on their front web page. Also very competitive in price. They sell a full line of PFC pads. I'm ordering a set of Hawk DTC-70s from them tomorrow. Going to Road America week after next. That track eats pads for breakfast! Downhill braking in 3, 5, and 8. Turn One's braking zone is also slightly downhill. But no matter how many brake pads it takes, RA is still my favorite track.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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are hp+ fairly noisy on the street?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by evoatcha
For hard driving at the track, my favorite pads on the front are the new Hawk DTC-70. They are a bit more expensive, but they really let me brake late and hard in all corners, all day long. They wear well and don't chew the rotors too badly. I run Hawk Blue on the back. Typically a set of front pads will last about four track days (I'm an instructor for BMW and Audi club driving schools) but I can get about 15 days on the rears. I think that's to be expected, since the front brakes do about 80% of the work.
I agree - DTC60/70 pads are excellent. Less rotor wear than Hawk Blues and no corrosive dust either.

My favorite aspect of the pads' performance is the release characteristic. They are easy to modulate coming off the brakes.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsurara
Can someone comment on PFC-01 vs. PFC-97

And also can someone comment on PFC-01/97 vs. Carbotech XP11?

I currently use Carbotech XP11s in the front, they're great but I need to replace them and am wondering about how the PFCs compare.

Thanks!

Also where the hell can I buy PFC pads
Ive used both PFC-01/97 and Carbotech XP11s on my T2 spec Evo. to me they are pretty much the same. They both have very good bite and both scar my rotors once they overheat and the pads start to crumble(i do have the cooling guides) I since have switched to DTC 70s and they are much more rotor friendly, they do not have the same amount of bite as the other two, but they are more linear and therefor easier to control your braking. Depending on the track, I typically cannot get more than 2 races on a set of front pads, regardless of which of the 3 ive used. My back pads are PF97s and they are doing just fine after 8 races. I think ill switch to something a bit more aggressive in the back for the runoffs, with ABS and EBD you really dont have to worry too much about over braking the rear, it also makes threshold braking. Also, as for brake fluid, Im amazed that people like racing blue, I boil that stuff easy. Yes my calipers are jet black now I use SRF and if I cant get that I use NEO. While SRF is more $ you put it in at the beginning of the season and you dont have to blead it till the end of the season, to me thats worth the extra $ right there. You can purchase them at AMSPerformance.com tell em Marty sent you

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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Best all around setup I'm guessing would be DTC-70 up front and DTC-60 rear.

my 2 cents.

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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Ouch! I need some Hawk sponsorship to run those pads. Very expensive

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