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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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Tire Tail for the Evo?

So I have searched for trailer hitches, trailers, tire tails, but still havent found what Iam looking for.
I prefer to not run a trailer because of the added expense, storage, etc. I really like the tire tail setups like the ones found at tiretail.com but they have nothing for the evo. I have been in contact with "rallytrack" about the hitches he sells but still havent found a tire tail to go with the hitch.
I might have to fabricate my own.
I wonder if one of the tails at tiretail.com will fit the rallytrack evo hitch, anyone tried it?
Anyone fabricate a tiretail for the evo?
Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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One of the great things about an EVO is you can drive it to the track with everything you need for the weekend and no need to trailer it. People in Porsches, Corvettes and Miatas are always amazed at how much stuff I get in my EVO.

I doubt if you will find a tire tail for the EVO because there is very little need for one.

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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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I didnt see wife and baby on that list
Thanks for the....um....help.
Iam interested in a tire tail, not how much others cram into their car. I have a truck and car trailer sitting in the driveway, I prefer to not use those methods either.

Half way to being able to post in the Wanted/WTB section!
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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There was a guy over a year ago that had one.. but he made his also.. no one else made it at the time.. but it has been done, and there are pictures of it on here somewhere.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Any local welding shops near by? Make one up fairly cheap. I know that isnt what you asked but a solution non the less
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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I have a trailer hitch for sale for the evo if you decide to go that route. It might support a tire tail.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Vishnu's 2004 one lap car had a hitch. I seem to remember they had to drill a hole in the bumper though...

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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 04:45 AM
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I think this has been brought up in the past IIRC. I guess they work well on a car like the miata since tires are relatively small and light. The evo tires and wheels aren't small or light. So if you have one built make sure it is designed for the specific load your gear will put on it. Example, my 285 18's weigh about 47lbs w/tire and wheel. Thats a 188lb load on the hitch.

Not trying to keep you from doing it, just pointing out a consideration.

seriously...I would love to have a truck and trailer to bring my family along, as it is I hardly have enough room for all my gear.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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[QUOTE=kekek;4252723]I think this has been brought up in the past IIRC. I guess they work well on a car like the miata since tires are relatively small and light. The evo tires and wheels aren't small or light. So if you have one built make sure it is designed for the specific load your gear will put on it. Example, my 285 18's weigh about 47lbs w/tire and wheel. Thats a 188lb load on the hitch.

Not trying to keep you from doing it, just pointing out a consideration.
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Agreed, you would hate to look in the rear view mirror and see your wheels and race tires bouncing all over the roadway and other peoples cars.

I think I might end up making one, I have a fabricator friend that should be able to whip one up. Its just so much easier to buy one when the R+D is done already. Since that isnt an option....
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Would the Weight being pushed down instead of pulled behind be an issue for a normal hitch?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by z4k
Would the Weight being pushed down instead of pulled behind be an issue for a normal hitch?

I think the main problem is torsional load on the hitch. I guess if you thought about the tire tail as a teeter-totter (if you will) when viewed from behind. All the load is fed through the small hitch and not displaced over a large area. Think about when you tow something, the vast majority of your load is longitudinal (along the long axis of the car front to rear) there is no real torsional load on the hitch.

Anyhow, if I were to design one for a car without a hitch it would have 2 separate mounting points spread out on the rear of the car, not a single central mount.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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there are a couple of hitches available for the regular lancer. The only problem is the drawbar types won't clear our exhaust, so there is this model that bolts to the rear tie-down hook and the rear bumper.

http://www.hiddenhitch.com/fitguides...ID=60866&dlr=0

http://www.hiddenhitch.com/fitguides/pdf/N60866.pdf

The problem with this kit is that it won't clear our rear fascia, which is probably why Vishnu cut a hole in theirs.

otherwise it's a direct bolt on affair and it's rated for a 200lbs tongue weight and 2000lbs towing capacity.

Perfect for a bike rake or tire trailer.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Here's my trialer hitch and trialer, some trialer shop welded it the hitch. So far no problem with the hitch, had drove faster than 80mph with the trialer attach.







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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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I agree that there would be too much vertical load on the hitch with a tire toat versus pulling a trailer. Balanced properly, most of the weight is resting on the trailer axle. I carried 8 tire/wheels on my harbor freight trailor and the tongue weight might have been around 25 lbs loaded. All the horizontal loads got distributed to the factory tow hook, a strong point of the car.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sgevotx
Now Iam really considering the trailer. Another benefit to the trailer is that the it can move from car to car as you buy and sell cars. Even though its cheap, the tire tail is very car specific, and I agree not as safe. I like the setup above.
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