Massa wins from pole
I responded to you 2 weeks ago(my post/respond above is the living true of my statements).
Massa winning a pole and winning the race is absolutely nothing to be excited about. Two days ago Alonso did that and I am not playing bells and wistles.
If you are over excited about Massa winning a pole and a race go ahead, I will laugh last, he has a long way to go to beat Alonso.
Two weeks later and Alsono again leads the championship plus is pulling more points from any oponent (exception Hamilton).
Not trying to be a hater but give me a break
Carlos
Massa winning a pole and winning the race is absolutely nothing to be excited about. Two days ago Alonso did that and I am not playing bells and wistles.
If you are over excited about Massa winning a pole and a race go ahead, I will laugh last, he has a long way to go to beat Alonso.
Two weeks later and Alsono again leads the championship plus is pulling more points from any oponent (exception Hamilton).
Not trying to be a hater but give me a break
Carlos
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Give it some time. Realisticly Kimi hasn't had much time to really get use to his Ferrari, keep in mind that there was a boicot between Renault/Mclaren/Ferrari to give up(release)/accept(exchange) the competitor's driver. Renault wouldn't let Alonso go, McLaren held Kimi until the last minute.
Botton line Kimi was negatively affected by team McLaren by not having "enough" time to get himself use to the new Ferarri while on the opposite hand Felipe Massa was already in and veteran for at least 2 years in Ferrari.
Following my theory, you would think that Alonso was equally and negatively affected by the same issue. Renault did not let him go until the last minute hindering him the ability to improve on his skill levels with the new Mclaren.
Short version: Kimi is too new to Ferarri meanwhile Massa is a "veteran" on Ferarri. Make sense?
Carlos
Botton line Kimi was negatively affected by team McLaren by not having "enough" time to get himself use to the new Ferarri while on the opposite hand Felipe Massa was already in and veteran for at least 2 years in Ferrari.
Following my theory, you would think that Alonso was equally and negatively affected by the same issue. Renault did not let him go until the last minute hindering him the ability to improve on his skill levels with the new Mclaren.
Short version: Kimi is too new to Ferarri meanwhile Massa is a "veteran" on Ferarri. Make sense?
Carlos
If he is to be a future champ, he has to start now. Look what happened when Senna joined McLaren in 88. Prost was already there and Senna was new to the team. I would say he acclimated pretty damn fast against a world champ.
Look at Schumacher in the Benetton taking it to Piquet right off the bat. He rose to the occasion also. Look at Hamiltons pace also.
I am comparing him to 2 of the best drivers ever because one McLaren team personal said he was the fastest driver ever at McLaren! Come on man!
Given all the testing they do, he should be well ahead of Massa's pace by now assuming he is the driver everyone says he is.
Look at Schumacher in the Benetton taking it to Piquet right off the bat. He rose to the occasion also. Look at Hamiltons pace also.
I am comparing him to 2 of the best drivers ever because one McLaren team personal said he was the fastest driver ever at McLaren! Come on man!
Given all the testing they do, he should be well ahead of Massa's pace by now assuming he is the driver everyone says he is.
I am comparing him to 2 of the best drivers ever because one McLaren team personal said he was the fastest driver ever at McLaren! Come on man!
" Given all the testing they do, he should be well ahead of Massa's pace by now assuming he is the driver everyone says he is".[/quote]
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Bingo!! and good point by the way... Kimi has been known to be a heart poping driver, the famous pass on Japan in 2005 passing Fissi on the last curve on the outside is the type of driving that people had recorded on their memory but lets be real here.
How many times has Kimi destroyed his car due to either pushing the limits too far and crashing the car on the barrier, against others or simply by breaking the car all together for pushing its mechanical limits.
In addition to what you said, I insist that Kimi is a car breaker and a hardcore risk taker. Botton line is that whenever Kimi does one of his stunts(crazy overtaking in the last yard of the curve) if things happens well people admires him but what about all the cars he already destroyed?
How many cars has Alonso crashed or destroyed? Zero. There is a thin line between being a bad a$$ driver with 100% relaibility and safety success and being a bad (without the a$$) driver and consistently breaking the cars and risking not just your own car but everyone elses cars and I think that Kimi is notorious for that.
Carlos
" Given all the testing they do, he should be well ahead of Massa's pace by now assuming he is the driver everyone says he is".[/quote]
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Bingo!! and good point by the way... Kimi has been known to be a heart poping driver, the famous pass on Japan in 2005 passing Fissi on the last curve on the outside is the type of driving that people had recorded on their memory but lets be real here.
How many times has Kimi destroyed his car due to either pushing the limits too far and crashing the car on the barrier, against others or simply by breaking the car all together for pushing its mechanical limits.
In addition to what you said, I insist that Kimi is a car breaker and a hardcore risk taker. Botton line is that whenever Kimi does one of his stunts(crazy overtaking in the last yard of the curve) if things happens well people admires him but what about all the cars he already destroyed?
How many cars has Alonso crashed or destroyed? Zero. There is a thin line between being a bad a$$ driver with 100% relaibility and safety success and being a bad (without the a$$) driver and consistently breaking the cars and risking not just your own car but everyone elses cars and I think that Kimi is notorious for that.
Carlos
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; May 29, 2007 at 09:02 PM.


