Formula one gossip update (after HungarianGP)
Formula one gossip update (after HungarianGP)
Believe it or not Formula one is evolving around the incident at the Hungarian GP. In case you did not know, not just Renault but now BMW had made public announcements regarding hiring Alonso's services.
BMW is "selling" the idea of a winner car to Alonso. Renault is willing to pitch in money to get Alonso back at whatever cost.
Gets this, Nick Heidfield could be replaced by Alonso as early as the end of the season.
Are you twisted yet?, get this, Hamilton has been photograph dating the daughter of McLaren Founder. This is perhaps a bombshell ready to explode.
McLaren couldn't had done in a more unprofessional manner. Can you believe that Hamilton is dating McLaren's founder daughter? that is discusting guys!!
I am not critizising the human factor or the relationship, they are both humans, I am deeply upset about the fact that they got caught publicly and that does not look good specially knowing all the $hit is happening with Alonso and Hamilton.
This newest update give me even more credit in reference to earlier comments that I made in previous post. I always maintained that Hamilton was the "prodege spoiled" boy that McLaren "created", a full british citizen that McLAREN fully developed and trained from early times.
This is no more that what I expected, HAMILTON is being treated with a high class of favoritism and it is worldwide ruing the image of McLaren.
Please, do your reading and if you can't find the articler just reply and I will post it for you.
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/m...o/1026208.html
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/m...o/1025675.html
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/m...o/1025528.html
Carlos
BMW is "selling" the idea of a winner car to Alonso. Renault is willing to pitch in money to get Alonso back at whatever cost.
Gets this, Nick Heidfield could be replaced by Alonso as early as the end of the season.
Are you twisted yet?, get this, Hamilton has been photograph dating the daughter of McLaren Founder. This is perhaps a bombshell ready to explode.
McLaren couldn't had done in a more unprofessional manner. Can you believe that Hamilton is dating McLaren's founder daughter? that is discusting guys!!
I am not critizising the human factor or the relationship, they are both humans, I am deeply upset about the fact that they got caught publicly and that does not look good specially knowing all the $hit is happening with Alonso and Hamilton.
This newest update give me even more credit in reference to earlier comments that I made in previous post. I always maintained that Hamilton was the "prodege spoiled" boy that McLaren "created", a full british citizen that McLAREN fully developed and trained from early times.
This is no more that what I expected, HAMILTON is being treated with a high class of favoritism and it is worldwide ruing the image of McLaren.
Please, do your reading and if you can't find the articler just reply and I will post it for you.
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/m...o/1026208.html
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/m...o/1025675.html
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/m...o/1025528.html
Carlos
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; Aug 14, 2007 at 09:20 PM.
Now what?:
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2677...a/mclaren/%20)
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbi...ter/article.do
As I said in post number #1, discusting professionalism. McLaren is making their own grave and throwing sand to themselves. As far as I know, they can stick Hamilton in their a$$
Carlos
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/2677...a/mclaren/%20)
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbi...ter/article.do
As I said in post number #1, discusting professionalism. McLaren is making their own grave and throwing sand to themselves. As far as I know, they can stick Hamilton in their a$$
Carlos
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; Aug 14, 2007 at 09:25 PM.
Can you guys see why I think McLaren is just straight up giving a $hity image?
Carlos
So what? Alonso wants out, Hamilton is making him look like a chump, and politics in F1 is certainly nothing new. Flavio is the guy that told Alonso to go to McLaren in the first place! Who LH hangs out with at the beach is gossip page fodder - if he suddenly can't drive anymore Ron will dump him like anyone else. I'm not really sure what your point is....
I still dont get why any of this is so dramatic?
I have stated in every pro-Hamilton thread on this site that he is good, but its because Ron Dennis has backed him since age 10 or 12 (cant remember the exact age). He is good, but he should be.
And about the daughter of McLaren, I fail to see why this is A. Important or B. a big deal. Are you bringing it up because it might create favortism to Hamilton? Again, not a shocker.
You sound like a motorsports tabloid reporter.
I have stated in every pro-Hamilton thread on this site that he is good, but its because Ron Dennis has backed him since age 10 or 12 (cant remember the exact age). He is good, but he should be.
And about the daughter of McLaren, I fail to see why this is A. Important or B. a big deal. Are you bringing it up because it might create favortism to Hamilton? Again, not a shocker.
You sound like a motorsports tabloid reporter.
agreed. pretty standard F1 news.
Ummm....all i need are pics of this girl 
- andrew
- andrew
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jeez, and I thought this thread was about spyker going under an withdrawing from formula 1
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UK_MOT...82802720070814
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UK_MOT...82802720070814
AMSTERDAM, Aug 14 (Reuters) - Dutch sports car maker Spyker Cars NV might sell some or all of its Formula One team as part of a refinancing plan and strategic review, Spyker said on Tuesday.
Spyker said in a statement that negative publicity on its credit worthiness and survivability had forced it to get additional funds to secure its short term liquidity position and to continue investments.
"Of the various refinancing scenarios being considered, the (partial) sale of the Spyker Formula One Team is one possibility," said Spyker, adding that it was reviewing a number of unsolicited received offers for the team or parts of it.
Spyker's current interim chief executive and director of the Spyker Formula One team, Michiel Mol, is also considering buying the racing team and he would step down as CEO and director to prevent a conflict of interest, Spyker said.
The vice-chairman of its supervisory board, Hans Hugenholtz, will temporarily take on the role of CEO until a successor for Mol was found.
The company, founded in 2000, said it expected to make a loss in 2007 and added its Formula One team would be not be "cash neutral" due to higher than expected costs and lower than expected revenues from television rights and sponsors.
Spyker, which bought a Formula One team last September, said its short term liquidity position was tight and its shareholder Strongwind of Luxembourg had supported Spyker with an additional 2 million euros ($2.72 million) loan.
The car maker said it expected its refinancing operation to be completed by the end of the third quarter this year. Last month it said delisting was a possibility.
Spyker said in a statement that negative publicity on its credit worthiness and survivability had forced it to get additional funds to secure its short term liquidity position and to continue investments.
"Of the various refinancing scenarios being considered, the (partial) sale of the Spyker Formula One Team is one possibility," said Spyker, adding that it was reviewing a number of unsolicited received offers for the team or parts of it.
Spyker's current interim chief executive and director of the Spyker Formula One team, Michiel Mol, is also considering buying the racing team and he would step down as CEO and director to prevent a conflict of interest, Spyker said.
The vice-chairman of its supervisory board, Hans Hugenholtz, will temporarily take on the role of CEO until a successor for Mol was found.
The company, founded in 2000, said it expected to make a loss in 2007 and added its Formula One team would be not be "cash neutral" due to higher than expected costs and lower than expected revenues from television rights and sponsors.
Spyker, which bought a Formula One team last September, said its short term liquidity position was tight and its shareholder Strongwind of Luxembourg had supported Spyker with an additional 2 million euros ($2.72 million) loan.
The car maker said it expected its refinancing operation to be completed by the end of the third quarter this year. Last month it said delisting was a possibility.
The whole Alonso v. Hamilton thing was bound to happen, especially since Lewis is living up to the hipe. Everyone was saying how good McLaren would be with the combo but, its just too much talent in one team. There should be a clear #1 and #2 driver ast McLaren there isn't one publicaly but, everyone knows LH is the favorite amongst the powers to be in Woking.
As far as Alonso is concerned, there was talk in other F1 only forums that Ferrari have approached him as well!! Kimi has also been approached by BMW. Heidfield has reportedly been approached by McLaren. Nothing has been proven but, it makes for some interesting teams next year if it goes down like that.
My thought is that that Alonso will go to Renault, being that Flavio is his manager and how Renault have dropped so sharply since his departure (where that is because of Alonso leaving or the teething problems they are having with the car is unknown). Imagine though a Ferrari with Alonso and Massa, who is a seriously quick driver that should be challenging for the driver's championship minus the Q3 fuel mishap at the 'Ring.
All the fuss about who Hamilton is dating really shouldn't be that big of a surprise. I mean the guy basically grew up a McLaren boy and probably was around the girl (is it Haag's daugther?) all the time. So again no big surprise there.
All I know is what Kimi is quietly doing a decent job at Ferrari considering who he replaced.
Not too surprised at Spyker withdrawing. Maybe someone will give Sutil a decent car. He is supposedly ubber fast!!! Maybe they will return next year when customer chassis' are allowed.
As far as Alonso is concerned, there was talk in other F1 only forums that Ferrari have approached him as well!! Kimi has also been approached by BMW. Heidfield has reportedly been approached by McLaren. Nothing has been proven but, it makes for some interesting teams next year if it goes down like that.
My thought is that that Alonso will go to Renault, being that Flavio is his manager and how Renault have dropped so sharply since his departure (where that is because of Alonso leaving or the teething problems they are having with the car is unknown). Imagine though a Ferrari with Alonso and Massa, who is a seriously quick driver that should be challenging for the driver's championship minus the Q3 fuel mishap at the 'Ring.
All the fuss about who Hamilton is dating really shouldn't be that big of a surprise. I mean the guy basically grew up a McLaren boy and probably was around the girl (is it Haag's daugther?) all the time. So again no big surprise there.
All I know is what Kimi is quietly doing a decent job at Ferrari considering who he replaced.
Not too surprised at Spyker withdrawing. Maybe someone will give Sutil a decent car. He is supposedly ubber fast!!! Maybe they will return next year when customer chassis' are allowed.
I don't see what the problem is LH is fast and has made more of a buzz for McLaren than Alonso this year; favoritism(if any) whithin a F1 team is nothing new and should only motivate Alonso to show that he should be #1, if he can. I'm sure this thread would not be if it was Alonso being the favorate as he is used to be. Let's not start a LW hate club here and face it, the kid (LH) is good (as is Alonso) and accept that he's having his 15 minute of fame as all great F1 stars has in the past and will in the future. What's with who he's dating? The queen of England, a nobody, it should not matter unless you are tabloid craving.
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So what? Alonso wants out, Hamilton is making him look like a chump, and politics in F1 is certainly nothing new. Flavio is the guy that told Alonso to go to McLaren in the first place! Who LH hangs out with at the beach is gossip page fodder - if he suddenly can't drive anymore Ron will dump him like anyone else. I'm not really sure what your point is....
Ditto man....bottom line is, the kid is making the master look like a suckah.....
It's all good fun for us though!
I still dont get why any of this is so dramatic?
I have stated in every pro-Hamilton thread on this site that he is good, but its because Ron Dennis has backed him since age 10 or 12 (cant remember the exact age). He is good, but he should be.
And about the daughter of McLaren, I fail to see why this is A. Important or B. a big deal. Are you bringing it up because it might create favortism to Hamilton? Again, not a shocker.
You sound like a motorsports tabloid reporter.
I have stated in every pro-Hamilton thread on this site that he is good, but its because Ron Dennis has backed him since age 10 or 12 (cant remember the exact age). He is good, but he should be.
And about the daughter of McLaren, I fail to see why this is A. Important or B. a big deal. Are you bringing it up because it might create favortism to Hamilton? Again, not a shocker.
You sound like a motorsports tabloid reporter.
Does it sound OK that you are sponsored by Pepsi and you are seing in a bar drinking Coca -cola? It sounds OK to you to have one driver dating the daughter of the co-founder of the company while there are employees working at the same level? This creates massive confrontation (press, sponsorship,contracts,profesionalism, comradary is compromise, hate, envy, favoritism, complot,stress,lies), you name it, the result is negative.
You make it sound like is not a big deal, obviously for you is not, for the world of Formula one it is. Needless to say that you failed to properly oversee the whole picture.
Partially because of the lack of professionalism and careless policy display by Mc Laren it is hurting themselves. This is no-No, Hamilton dating the co founder is bad news for the entire team.
No ofense but that shows me that you have little experience in real life jobs. You don't fraternize at work. There are rules of discipline, there are contracts, there are protocols.
I don't know your background but I am incline to think that perhaps you worked in places were rule of conduct don't exist or perhaps you don't think they are important.
Imagine your college daughter/son dating the College/university's principal. Imagine the Colonel's daughter sleeping /dating with a private/airman that works for the Colonel on his change of command.
Formula one is a macro multi billion business and this type of actions virtually ruin the image of a company. I am in total disagreement with you.
Put aside if Hamilton is better driver than Alonso and/or viceversa, I am talking about what Mc Laren is causing, a poor image.
Carlos
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; Aug 15, 2007 at 09:30 PM.
So what? Alonso wants out, Hamilton is making him look like a chump, and politics in F1 is certainly nothing new. Flavio is the guy that told Alonso to go to McLaren in the first place! Who LH hangs out with at the beach is gossip page fodder - if he suddenly can't drive anymore Ron will dump him like anyone else. I'm not really sure what your point is....
I don't see your point either
Carlos
Goshh.. why people can't think outside the box? So to you is OK what is happening right now?
Does it sound OK that you are sponsored by Pepsi and you are seing in a bar drinking Coca -cola? It sounds OK to you to have one driver dating the daughter of the co-founder of the company while there are employees working at the same level? This creates massive confrontation (press, sponsorship,contracts,profesionalism, comradary is compromise, hate, envy, favoritism, complot,stress,lies), you name it, the result is negative.
You make it sound like is not a big deal, obviously for you is not, for the world of Formula one it is. Needless to say that you failed to properly oversee the whole picture.
Partially because of the lack of professionalism and careless policy display by Mc Laren it is hurting themselves. This is no-No, Hamilton dating the co founder is bad news for the entire team.
No ofense but that shows me that you have little experience in real life jobs. You don't fraternize at work. There are rules of discipline, there are contracts, there are protocols.
I don't know your background but I am incline to think that perhaps you worked in places were rule of conduct don't exist or perhaps you don't think they are important.
Imagine your college daughter/son dating the College/university's principal. Imagine the Colonel's daughter sleeping /dating with a private/airman that works for the Colonel on his change of command.
Formula one is a macro multi billion business and this type of actions virtually ruin the image of a company. I am in total disagreement with you.
Put aside if Hamilton is better driver than Alonso and/or viceversa, I am talking about what Mc Laren is causing, a poor image.
Carlos
Does it sound OK that you are sponsored by Pepsi and you are seing in a bar drinking Coca -cola? It sounds OK to you to have one driver dating the daughter of the co-founder of the company while there are employees working at the same level? This creates massive confrontation (press, sponsorship,contracts,profesionalism, comradary is compromise, hate, envy, favoritism, complot,stress,lies), you name it, the result is negative.
You make it sound like is not a big deal, obviously for you is not, for the world of Formula one it is. Needless to say that you failed to properly oversee the whole picture.
Partially because of the lack of professionalism and careless policy display by Mc Laren it is hurting themselves. This is no-No, Hamilton dating the co founder is bad news for the entire team.
No ofense but that shows me that you have little experience in real life jobs. You don't fraternize at work. There are rules of discipline, there are contracts, there are protocols.
I don't know your background but I am incline to think that perhaps you worked in places were rule of conduct don't exist or perhaps you don't think they are important.
Imagine your college daughter/son dating the College/university's principal. Imagine the Colonel's daughter sleeping /dating with a private/airman that works for the Colonel on his change of command.
Formula one is a macro multi billion business and this type of actions virtually ruin the image of a company. I am in total disagreement with you.
Put aside if Hamilton is better driver than Alonso and/or viceversa, I am talking about what Mc Laren is causing, a poor image.
Carlos
I failed to see the whole picture? Let me guess, your a glass is half empty and its going to fall off the table and cause the biggest mess EVER kind of guy....
What about that Coke-Pepsi comparison? Did my buddy Robby Gordon cause a tear in the space-time continuem by being photographed drinking a Red Bull while wearing his Monster logo-ed hat? Oh, of course, its not F1 so it doesnt matter. I still dont get why you brought up brand issues anyhow.
I have little experience in real life jobs? I shouldnt even dignify that with a response. Ill just ask you though, how many tire companies have your worked for in the Race Tire Engineering division where you actually saw motorsports from the business side, and not the ra-ra over-emotional fan side?
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This kind of drama is definitely not new to F1. From the onset of the season, I personally saw this coming. Reigning 2 time WC leaves reinging Constructor champion to join storied team in disarray. Walla. Storied team is back on top with a new car and the most talented rookie arguably ever in F1. I would bet Alonso had more to do with the new car's success than LH, but he is clearly not reaping all the benefits or respect due a reigning 2 time WC in the team. That is the brutally honest reality in racing. Just be fast baby.
For those younger readers perhaps not old enough to remember, here is a good one for you. Probably the biggest in-team driver feud in F1 history occurred under the watchful eye of one Ron Dennis. Prost and Senna - ultimately leading to a final race of the season crash debacle between the two. Egos don't get any bigger than the top of the world motorsports pyramid.
Cheers
For those younger readers perhaps not old enough to remember, here is a good one for you. Probably the biggest in-team driver feud in F1 history occurred under the watchful eye of one Ron Dennis. Prost and Senna - ultimately leading to a final race of the season crash debacle between the two. Egos don't get any bigger than the top of the world motorsports pyramid.
Cheers