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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Need input from 6-spd track guys

Hey guys, I need your help. I've already contacted some of you guys about this via PM, but my professors want me to collect more data for a school project.

I'm trying to collect the following information from 6-spd guys who track their cars, whether you've experienced a failure or not. I'm particularly interested in seeing how many 6-spd guys have tracked their cars and have not experienced any failures. So if you could reply either to this thread or directly to me via PM w/ the following information, it would greatly appreciated! TIA!

1) Year of Car -
2) Estimated HP -
3) Total Track Days on Tranny -
4) Tranny Oils Used -
5) Total Miles on Tranny -

For the people who've experienced failures, please provide the following information:
6) Tranny Miles at Failure -
7) Failure Date (Month/Year) -
8) Type of Failure -
9) Solution (rebuild, 5-spd conversion, tranny cooler) -
10) Oil Used during failure -
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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1. 2006 IX MR
2. 320 WHP
3. 9 trackdays (pushed very hard)
4. Stock Diaqueen fluid, changed twice.
5. 9,000 miles

After reading the "Trackwhores with MR's" thread, I will be adding an tranny oil cooler and be changing the tranny oil after each trackday in an effort to preserve the life of my 6sp.

Hope this helps
-Ryan
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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I suggest everyone reply to the thread so that the data is available to the rest of the community.

1) 2005
2) ~300-330whp/320-340wtq over the course of time when racing it
3) 7-8
4) BG II (yuck)
5) ~18k
6) ~18k
7) July 06
8) Teeth ripped off 4th gear and shot through the trans killing the rest
9) Conversion to 5spd - 6spd still sitting there collecting dust
10) BG II
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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1. 2006 IX MR
2. 330HP
3. Approx 20 at time of failure

6. Approx 7k
7. 11/06
8. Synchromesh - 3rd and 4th gears
9. Replaced 6spd (under warranty )
10. Redline

Now with 5k additional miles and 20 additional trackdays. Still using Redline fluid and no problems as of yet. My heel toe is also much smoother and I sequentially downshift and blip.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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2006
330whp
1 pass down 1/4 mile
Stock 6speed oil
26340 miles

No failures to report.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Deleted since it was not 1/4 mile relevant.

Carlos

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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We're talking about the track as in road racing, I believe. If it includes autocross and road racing, then I have a ton more data, but being in the motorsports forum and knowing that the 6spd problem is primarily caused by road racing, I figured that's what he was looking for...
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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I'll be watching this thread. This is great info to have, no failures yet for me though.

Last edited by Rich EVO MR SE; Sep 15, 2007 at 11:08 AM.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Yeah, the intent of this thread was to capture information from people who've open tracked their 6-spd trannies since the 4th gear failures primarily happen cars driven on road courses.

However, the 6-spd 4th gears are rated to around 390 flywheel hp (according to Jon@TRE and from my calcs), so high powered 6-spds can see similar failures as well. So if you have close to that, I guess you can list # of drag passes or redline runs using 4th gear.

Thanks for the info everybody. Keep 'em coming!
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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I have a SCCA Touring 2 Lancer Evo that I run at a National Level, which means we have 40 minute straight races. Our cars get quite a bit more abuse than at HPDE due to the length of the races, usually after the 20 minute mark stuff starts to go crazy. I am pretty sure the transmission is out the door soon, had shifting issues at Pocono that I hadn't experienced before.

1) 2006
2) About 250whp, just a tune and exhaust.
3) 40+
4) Stock, I change it after every other race.
5) ~17,000

6) ~17,000
7) Soon, anticipating April of next year after the first race
8) Won't shift to 4th
9) 5 speed conversion and Setrab cooler.
10) Stock

I think the 6 speed failure is inevidable, but I think at a HPDE level most of the people should be OK, I would put on a Setrab cooler to be safe though, I think with that and frequent fluid changes you may be fine.

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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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1) 06 ix mr se
2) 286hp (stock)
3) 3 days
4) diaqueen mr gear oil (changed all fluids after every events)
5) 68xx miles

i'm goint to track once a month and very afraid about my tranny.

trying to put some tranny oil cooler + trans temp gauge (anyone know recommended shop to install those things around socal area?)
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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1) Year of Car - 2005 MR Edition
2) Estimated HP - 414whp
3) Total Track Days on Tranny - 22
4) Tranny Oils Used - Motul Gear 300 75w90 in the transmission and Motul Competition ff in the Rear Diff and Transfer Case - limited evidence of wear
5) Total Miles on Tranny - 24,500 high revving miles
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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bump for more data
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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I haven't had any issues at all. (knocks on wood)

1) Year of Car - 2005 MR
2) Estimated HP - 320
3) Total Track Days on Tranny - 20 or more road course
4) Tranny Oils Used - Stock, never changed.
5) Total Miles on Tranny - 39k

I've only taken it to the drag strip 3 times.

I drive it extremely hard on road courses. Only thing I change is the brake fluid and engine oil before every track day. I go through brake pads and tires every 4 or 5 days of track usage.

On the street I drive legally, meaning no speeding, no launching, no street racing.

Hope that helps.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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No issues to report:

1) Year of Car - 2005 MR
2) Estimated HP - approx 320-340ish HP @ the engine (250-260ish HP @ the wheels)
3) Total Track Days on Tranny - 11 and counting
4) Tranny Oils Used - Stock MR diaqueen change every 15K miles
5) Total Miles on Tranny - 49K miles

I too drive hard on the road course and @ auto-x event but legally on the streets .... Plus I have done over a 100+ auto-x runs on this car easy ...
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