"floating sensation" while turning
Yes, 14k all around... And now that I think about it, the stiffer it is, the more I should be able to do it because the body won't be crushing the weight onto that outside tire and keeping it planted.
Thanks for the video. It def looks like Daddio LFBs, because in the slaloms (where it appeared he was going wicked fast), the tails were flash on/off and it sounded like he was always on the gas. This probably helps him in two ways, rotation and brake boosting (esp. in SM where bigger turbos are allowed). The red Showcase car didn't seem to be attacking with as much vigor. How did their times compare?
How you go about doing this also depends on other factors
Results from '07:
http://scca.com/documents/resultfile...ts%2011.14.pdf
http://scca.com/documents/resultfile...ts%2011.14.pdf
Yes, 14k all around... And now that I think about it, the stiffer it is, the more I should be able to do it because the body won't be crushing the weight onto that outside tire and keeping it planted.
Thanks for the video. It def looks like Daddio LFBs, because in the slaloms (where it appeared he was going wicked fast), the tails were flash on/off and it sounded like he was always on the gas. This probably helps him in two ways, rotation and brake boosting (esp. in SM where bigger turbos are allowed). The red Showcase car didn't seem to be attacking with as much vigor. How did their times compare?
Thanks for the video. It def looks like Daddio LFBs, because in the slaloms (where it appeared he was going wicked fast), the tails were flash on/off and it sounded like he was always on the gas. This probably helps him in two ways, rotation and brake boosting (esp. in SM where bigger turbos are allowed). The red Showcase car didn't seem to be attacking with as much vigor. How did their times compare?
I've heard rumors/stories that he has messed with competitors by tapping the brakes at points when he wasn't using them to try and fake them out. Kinda makes you wonder.
Mark himself will tell you not to pay attention as his foot is always there (over the brake pedal) and he may not actually be on the brakes.
Left foot braking rules. I learned how driving rally cars and used it alot in Auto-X. On road courses it seems less effective due to the high speeds though - a slight lift will do the trick.
Hello All. Yes I do specifically remember that 180 turn at the bus lot and how I got the car to do that.
Going back to the specific scenario it is on a very smooth asphault surface. The tires were 245/40X17 Dunlop Star specs on stock suspension and relatively stock alignment.
I remember that turn well because we talked about it after it happened. In that case it was just throttle lift. As I was turning and the car continued to slow, the front tires "settled and caught" and while the rear "floated" around ever so lightly. It was a nice little slide around that's kind of hard (for me anyway) to keep from happening. Most likely, if you could have seen it from the outside, I would have been on three wheels at that very moment.
It's a phenomenon I can replicate at-will on most asphault streets but not so much on concrete (the rear grips a little more on concrete). I just enter the turn a touch hot, start turning and note a bit of understeer, let off the throttle and the front seems to "dig in" an the rear slides out just a touch.
Honestly, I don't consider this a good thing and it's actually part of the "problem" with my setup. What's happening when the front "catches" is that the weight is simultaneously being transferred to that front corner which is causing the front outside tire to go up into the well. At that moment, the car is leaning over and the rear-inside tire is lifting off which is reducing the rear grip. That's what's causing the slide in my theory.
It's a problem in just about every turn I take and it keeps me from going as fast as I want to because the rear steps out. Goofygrin, Remember that long fast sweeper in the last half of Mineral Wells? The one time I really pushed it, I ended up "kicking" a cone with my rear wheel. completely missed it with the front but the rear just started sliding out and hit it.
I'm looking in to putting a seriously strong sway-bar on the front to see what that will do. Hopefully, it will reduce this....
Going back to the specific scenario it is on a very smooth asphault surface. The tires were 245/40X17 Dunlop Star specs on stock suspension and relatively stock alignment.
I remember that turn well because we talked about it after it happened. In that case it was just throttle lift. As I was turning and the car continued to slow, the front tires "settled and caught" and while the rear "floated" around ever so lightly. It was a nice little slide around that's kind of hard (for me anyway) to keep from happening. Most likely, if you could have seen it from the outside, I would have been on three wheels at that very moment.
It's a phenomenon I can replicate at-will on most asphault streets but not so much on concrete (the rear grips a little more on concrete). I just enter the turn a touch hot, start turning and note a bit of understeer, let off the throttle and the front seems to "dig in" an the rear slides out just a touch.
Honestly, I don't consider this a good thing and it's actually part of the "problem" with my setup. What's happening when the front "catches" is that the weight is simultaneously being transferred to that front corner which is causing the front outside tire to go up into the well. At that moment, the car is leaning over and the rear-inside tire is lifting off which is reducing the rear grip. That's what's causing the slide in my theory.
It's a problem in just about every turn I take and it keeps me from going as fast as I want to because the rear steps out. Goofygrin, Remember that long fast sweeper in the last half of Mineral Wells? The one time I really pushed it, I ended up "kicking" a cone with my rear wheel. completely missed it with the front but the rear just started sliding out and hit it.
I'm looking in to putting a seriously strong sway-bar on the front to see what that will do. Hopefully, it will reduce this....
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