I like this thread because a time attack car is my plan, but over the long haul. Racing is an expensive sport and you really need to be pulling down some cash to be building a car, even a budgeted ride isn't cheap. From what I gather, you do not have the experience or the funds right now to do what you want. I have no problem with fantasy threads, buy you should really consider making your car a fun track car for the time being. Get a lot of seat time like others have said and save up some money while you are doing it.

As for the white, I think you will be horribly disappointed even on race gas. I believe its good for 10-20whp at best. If you are planning on using race gas all of the time (I wouldn't as it sort of pertains to my "do things slowly" speech above ) get a green. There are many used on here and it will perform much better.

I am pretty sure the Evo 9 turbo is good for more than 400whp, but you really need to work it. Of course the number depends on the dyno as well. I put down 371whp on a 46F day with just my IC, TBE, and intake (basically) on AMSs dyno. As I said, I like this thread, so Ill check back here and see the progress with whatever you decide to do!

 

There is nothing cheap about this!!! LOL, general upkeep will kick your as$! between race pads, rotors, tires, fluids, and race gas!!! In addition to what i said earlier, take a look at the parts you have and the parts you want and realize what you need. try and sell things to get the cash to buy what you need! Ill take those big brakes!!!!!! LOL

 

yea i really do need more experience. I don't plan on taking anything off of the car other than things that need to be replaced. Im trying to budget myself so that I can afford the general upkeep and track fee's.

So I was planning on doing HPDE and running in NASA. How does Redline work? Im interested in that also. I just want a start, even if im far from competetive I jsut want to be on a track, I want to get the experience to help satisfy my race cravings..

I ordered an FP White also, I talked with the guy from Forced Performance for like 2 hours and we determined that an FP White is a better way to go with my mods and what I want to do with the car. I hope I made the right decision..

 

okay so let me ask this from you guys with experience..

Other than running wider wheels and stickier tires, what do I need to have a decent time attack car..

lets say i want to run Redline Modified AWD class, what kind of power output and other setups do I need to have?

 

Strongly agree.

You'll be a faster driver and learn a lot more in a shorter amount of time if you DONT start with r-comps or slicks.

And you'll save a lot more money on tires and brakes. And you can stay in Redline street class where you might not get completely obliterated.

Also, just get the stoptech 4 wheel kit rather than the front stoptech kit and a rear brembo kit.....

- Andrew

 

You need on track driving experience first and foremost. Good suspension that's dialed in and set-up right. Brakes that can take a lot of heat well and the ability to brake deep with the right techniques so you don't cook them. Oh and *****. And self-control.

Power is the absolute LAST thing to worry about....yes it's fun, but if you're new to the track then lack of power is not going to be what's holding your times back.

It really seems to me like your getting way ahead of yourself here. Don't take that the wrong way, but we see a lot of people dump a ton of money into their car with no real plan and zero on track experience and expect to be time attack heroes their first time out. Next thing they know, stock STIs with good drivers destroy them and they give up.

Take it slow, learn to drive, then add power.

Don't even worry about time attack until you do a couple of HPDEs.

- Andrew

 

Spoken wisely...

I think I have a decent amount of track time and race time. I have my nasa Time trials license and three years of driving and this is my first year racing on slicks! And I still rock a stock turbo!! Now part of that is lack of money right now and staying in TT-S. Regardless start small get your feet wet, before you drown your self in too much car!!!

As far as other mods... My suggestions are, start witha one way adjustable coil over. Dont get yourself lost in a sea of adjustment. Focus on rebound only and learn what exactly happens when you spin that nob towards the + and - marks. Whiteline roll center adjustment kit, rear sway bar (24mm), front and rear adjustable end links, rear trailer arm bushing, bump steer correction kit, front control arm bushings...

Now all of that is just what I have, combination of AMS and Whiteline parts. As for coilovers I run STANCE... I have had great luck with everything I have run!

 

Thanks alot guys, I don't plan on putting anything else into the car other than maintnance.. But when I do have to replace something it would be nice to go ahead and upgrade.

There is a reason for the StopTech BBK up front and the Brembo GT BBK in the rear, it provides a much better balance and the rear doesn't wander on hard braking like the factory Brembo's tend to do.. A friction performance engineer rode with me and he felt that my brakes are "Perfect"..

But thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it.. I will get pics as soon as possible

I WANNA RACE!!! LOL

 

Hows your rev match down shift while braking technique? You will need to practice. Seat time, seat time, seat time. Nothing will make you a faster driver than lots of seat time. Here is an embarrasing story... My first time at the track, my car had about 300whp, and I absolutely got murdered by a stock miata with race tires. The driver of the miata was in his early 30's and had been racing cart since he was 12. He can't keep up with me to save his life now, but it just goes to show what experience can do. Contact the local tracks and find out if they have open track days, look into other car enthusiasts groups in your area that may rent the track for private track days and try to get on with them. Don't put that turbo on until you have been at the track a few time, you will understand after you go. Too much power on street tires is kind of fun though, but only for a couple laps and then they turn greasy. You think you want to race now...just wait until you can drive as fast as you want without having to look into the rear view to check for cops. Its addicting.

 

First figure out what series you want to run in and what class your budget can handle. That will largely dictate the type of mods to run.

 

Thanks and yes this is my dream, just to get on a track. My Heeel-Toe is just about perfect in the Evo, and I havnt missed a shift in months, ive had alot of practice trying to make myself smooth in this car

 

Hey guys I was wondering, who here runs bumper/trunk clips? So that you can remove them quickly? I am getting ready to get my new bumper installed with my new I/C and I dont really see the point in paying a body shop a ton to mount it in the OE location when I could just bolt some clips on and have easy access to everything

 

why would you pay a body shop a ton to bolt your bumper on? It's like 4 bolts and 2 plastic clips. . .

That doesn't make sense. . .

Just like it doesn't make sense to ask the opinion of all these people on here, then completely ignore input from seasoned veterans of the sport. . . but to each his own. . .

 

All of these guys provided good advices here, if you really want to be competitive, these are the people to talk to, especially when one day you're going to be racing against them. So, frist suggestion - listen closely to what guys that tracking their evos for years have to say.

If you haven't done any HPDEs yet, don't even bother with MOD class in Time Attack, you just wont be competitive, there are some serious cars out there, that might just make you hate what you're doing. A good start (again like someone said already) would be NASA HPDE days and street tires. You can also do HPDEs with Redline Time Attack, but please don't go competing right away, it's just too dangerous for everybody on the track (I am NASA instructor, I know what I'm talking about), I'm not saying that you're bad, but things do happen and it's not all about driving. Also the best place to start with time attack would be their stock class, that would be really nice for you, because at that point the car and the power doesn't really matter - it's all about the driver.
I also understand that you don't want to take your car down to stock level, so after some HPDE practice you can shoot for Street Class, it might be more for you (untill you get to MOD class level)

 

Agreed. As another NASA instructor... please don't come out on the track with us without getting some instruction under your belt! I love my wife and kids! I want to see them again! I encourage you to run through the HPDE's also. NASA has a GREAT program (well... I speak for Mid Atlantic anyways.)