- enormes testículos
- mucho dinero

 

Awesome pictures RallyDSM.
Sounds like I should be consider a beater car for hitting the gravel or wait 10 years until my Evo is a beater. You guys would be in heaven with the logging roads up here.

 

You need to really hate your wallet. I mean really hate it, like you enjoy seeing it empty more than anything else in the world. Also you have to have an inborn love of setting money on fire.

Basics for any stage rally Evo-
-You need a cage, preferable FIA spec because most governing bodies will accept it
-Brakes that will fit under some gravel rims, this can be done cheaply or expensively, you will get what you pay for but it can be done either way
- Gravel rims, the bigger the rim, the more expensive your tires will be and the less likely anyone at the event might be able to help you out with a spare should you need it
-Underbody plating- I have a friend who is a fabricator that is currently doing our plating on the HAR rally car and designed, built my plate as well. You want aluminum for weight savings, at least 5000 series for strength, 6000 is better.
-A turbo restrictor, 34 mm is the standard for USRC events, then you will need to tune your car to work with the restrictor
-A gravel suspension, AMR makes a nice one for relatively cheap, the higher end ones are fine if you actually have the capability of tuning them properly. I would not suggest a stock suspension for stage rally. It works for rallycross but it isn't going to last long on difficult stages
-A rally computer
-Race suits and helmets
-Intercom system
-Fire supressions system
-A crazy person that trusts your driving ability to codrive for you.
-Spares, lots of spares

There are other odds and ends. If you actually want to do this make sure you have money to get the job done. Figure out out what your total costs are going to be and then, as a friend of mine from the American Lemans Series once told me, double that figure. In alot of ways it is easier to just buy a fully built rally car of rally classifieds or special stage. If just starting out I would suggest a 2wd car, but you can find some decent DSMs and old subies for relatively cheap.

If you are going to use your car and aren't living under a money tree this would be my suggestion, start participating in TSD rallies and your local rallyx events. Find a codriver you can work with and enjoy working with and have them come with you to these things to get yourselves sync'd up right. Buy what you need over time. Start with your plating and snow tires. Then get your brakes/rims/hard compound rally tires(they will last longer for you) and suspension. After that start looking at the caging, strip the car out and make sure that the mods you already have are legal in the class you plan to start in. After awhile of doing the rallyx thing and getting your skills up save your money for entry fees, fuel, transport, lodging and licencing. Swap out all your bushings and get the car tuned with the restrictor.

I would never want to disuade a future competitor from following their dream, just make sure you are considering everything and have a realistic set of goals in mind. If you can marry a rich widow or find some other mode of sugar momma to take care of the money end you should be good LOL. If not, I hope you like Top Ramen.

Hope that was some help.

 

Dirty car war!




Oh and don't get the beatrush piece, its a pile of **** if you are going to do anything that isn't on a paved surface.

Here is what mine looked like when I through it away.



You will be contantly losing your front lip and having to hammer the brackets back into shape. It won't withstand even mild punishment.

Also forgot to mention, you take the car on dirt for fun and you will most definately break ****.

 

Very nice post. This is the standard for just about any racing at a competitive level. There's nothing mentioned here that should ever be overlooked. (Well maybe the armor part if you're a road racer.)

 

and agreed with makinen. thats what ya need... you need alot of spare parts. spare axles, diffs, suspension lol
but in all honesty, my car doesnt kill me that badly. i've never broken anything and i've done a couple dirt rallies and tarmac events.
but i pull it down after every big rally event. my biggest costs are Tyres and race gas.

ok ok ok my contribution...
dirty car ^^

 

Nice post Makkinen, great advice for anyone who wants to get into rallying. To contribute a little just from the rally-x I've done, the things I wish I had before I went: 1. A set of snow tires 2. An undertray or something to protect the intercooler (I've been eyeing the rally innovations lightbar) and 3. A car that I didn't care about. I had a lot of fun but definitely was cautious in some parts of the course and would have had a lot more fun if I wasn't thinking about being able to make it to work on Monday morning. Anyway, here's a couple of pictures to add to the dirty evo collection.

 

well said Makkinen

 

OMG!! Scott, I think you just got beat haha ;p

 

Why do i get this feeling that you guys pretty much crushed this guys hope of "rallying" his Evo someday. Its pretty entertaining that most people think racing, or better yet rallying is pretty easy. They dont realize how much is actually involved.

 

that is exactly right. And how many people you need to be involved in one team with fully determination. And the weak people or less determent, still falls out down on the road, until you get where you can call it a team.
Most people think, to get into rally is just as easy then start road racing or AutoX-ing, drag .
Nothing take away from there but just as volume of the needs for rally is much bigger, just to get into it.

Until you start going on the rally road, you will not fully understand that.

But remember, every thousand mile starts with the first step.

And you just did that
/for the thread starter/

 

Oh., it's on now... since it's a dirty CAR battle and not a dirty EVO battle (allthough, I see little difference between our two), check out my first rally car...






I've got some more of my EVO around... I'll have to dig them out too

Scott

 

There is a can of coke on your car.

There was a can of coke on your car...

 

I bow down to that one Scott, very nice. If it rains this weekend I'll have to try and out do it.

Glad people liked the post. I sincerely hope I'm not killing any dreams, but even dreams have to be realistic and fall under a proper plan to make them happen. Unrealistic dreams are about as useful as masturbation.

Rob is right about the teamwork thing though and it is something I should have added. No matter how determined, well funded or organized you are you need a team you can count on. Even if rallying was your job you couldn't do and handle everything. Not even close. You need a good mechanic, a good codriver, and someone to handle the contacts with sponsors and sanctioning bodies at least. And that is a bare bones operation.

I want to wish you luck though. The hardships can definately be worth it.

 

i didn't run mud yet , but this is what we got on tarmac on the car, in one day only

so Scott is a winner yet