Spacers - 'yes/no' on a Track Car?
So conceivably if you had too high an offset for our cars, you could fine-tune the fitment with spacers. Which is essentially what spacers were designed for right? Although people are using them to expand track width as well.
So if you were designing rims (throw out fitment issues for a minute), what offset would make for the strongest rim?
So if you were designing rims (throw out fitment issues for a minute), what offset would make for the strongest rim?
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QUESTION:
So if I bought some 17x9.5 +12 wheels ...(someone told me after I paid they dont fit the evo)
What spacers would I need to make them work...on a voltex widebody
Someone please help
I posted questions all over this forum on the +12...but no luck
thanks
So if I bought some 17x9.5 +12 wheels ...(someone told me after I paid they dont fit the evo)
What spacers would I need to make them work...on a voltex widebody
Someone please help
I posted questions all over this forum on the +12...but no luck
thanks
You can ex change them something like 20-25?
around that you still will be very very aggressive wheel set up. I dont know , what is the wheel fitments for the Voltex bod kit. If its really aggressive, maybe your +12 off set even can fit , i guess.
Here is some info about how the off set works:



i hope it helps.
Rob
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I have no clue where the irrational fear of spacers comes from... but it has been prevalent as long as I have been tracking my car. Most often, the ones recommending that you not run spacers are the ones who have never run them themselves.
Ive run 5mm non-hubcentric spacers and 15mm hubcentric spacers on the front of my car. Have had the 15mms on for the past 2 seasons. Never had issues with either, but I would encourage going with hubcentric spacers if at all possible. There are companies that will make custom hubcentric spacers of smaller sizes (ie: 5mm, 7mm, etc) as the standard Eibach and H&R 5mms are not.
Pay them the same heed you would any other critical part on your car. Don't cheap out on materials/brands/etc... and you will be fine.
Ive run 5mm non-hubcentric spacers and 15mm hubcentric spacers on the front of my car. Have had the 15mms on for the past 2 seasons. Never had issues with either, but I would encourage going with hubcentric spacers if at all possible. There are companies that will make custom hubcentric spacers of smaller sizes (ie: 5mm, 7mm, etc) as the standard Eibach and H&R 5mms are not.
Pay them the same heed you would any other critical part on your car. Don't cheap out on materials/brands/etc... and you will be fine.
Spacer will be find if you do it right and not use low quality one... or you will end up like that stupid guy in his RX7
Custom made for my R33, they don't move at all! and still have lot of thread to torque.

Custom made for my R33, they don't move at all! and still have lot of thread to torque.

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Thx for all the feedback on the spacers issue.
Along with spacers usually come extended well studs. I'm seeing that ARP extended studs seem to be the norm?
With my new setup (info below) I'm seeing the need for some extended studs. I wasn't aware that just plain 'ol CE28's had this thick of a backspace or whatever it's called. I'm only seeing 9 thread revolutions vs the stock 12.5 revolutions and I'm not sure that's all that safe for the track.

As an update for this thread.....
My main goal was to try and find a 9.5" or 10" non-staggered offset that would not need spacers. I think I found that in 18x9.5" +28 CE28's. See pics HERE. But all is not perfect, as even with rolled rear fenders a +28 will occasionally rub in the back with a 275 tire. I could buldge up the lip or go wide fenders but not really liking those options yet.
So, assuming there's room on the inside for a higher offset - I've measured and there is - my next set of rims will have a slightly higher offset in the +32 to +35 range depending on brand. This offset, however, might require a small 5-6mm front spacer. So we're back!
Along with spacers usually come extended well studs. I'm seeing that ARP extended studs seem to be the norm?
With my new setup (info below) I'm seeing the need for some extended studs. I wasn't aware that just plain 'ol CE28's had this thick of a backspace or whatever it's called. I'm only seeing 9 thread revolutions vs the stock 12.5 revolutions and I'm not sure that's all that safe for the track.

As an update for this thread.....
My main goal was to try and find a 9.5" or 10" non-staggered offset that would not need spacers. I think I found that in 18x9.5" +28 CE28's. See pics HERE. But all is not perfect, as even with rolled rear fenders a +28 will occasionally rub in the back with a 275 tire. I could buldge up the lip or go wide fenders but not really liking those options yet.
So, assuming there's room on the inside for a higher offset - I've measured and there is - my next set of rims will have a slightly higher offset in the +32 to +35 range depending on brand. This offset, however, might require a small 5-6mm front spacer. So we're back!
Of course it's always better to not run spacers if possible. But unless you can afford to buy wheels for every offset/track change, spacers are the easy, affordable, way to achieve these changes. Have to use proper studs, nuts, and proper installation methods for all hardware. Checking fastener integrity regularly is also highly recommended.
i would use a different off sets front and rear instead the spacer, IF i need a different track front rear.
I have and had a bad feeling about them, so i never used them. I see more problem possibilities and error possibilities with them, then without them.
In racing try to keep work with less parts and more simple. In my mind.
But im not a road racer really so it is just one way to look at it.
i dont like to end up like this dude ...
ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I
im not saying he had a spacers , but more part to check there is more chance to go wrong
Anyway i think its hilarious
I have and had a bad feeling about them, so i never used them. I see more problem possibilities and error possibilities with them, then without them.
In racing try to keep work with less parts and more simple. In my mind.
But im not a road racer really so it is just one way to look at it.
i dont like to end up like this dude ...
everhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I
im not saying he had a spacers , but more part to check there is more chance to go wrong

Anyway i think its hilarious

That video did not have spacers, he had wrong size lugnuts. Nothing to do with spacers.
I have been running spacers on 4 different cars over the last 5 years. Make sure they fit properly and you have enough wheel stud and you will have no issues. Spacers put no more stress on the hubs then larger wheels do. When is the last time you heard Evo owners complain about hubs going out?
When you torque a spacer between the wheel and hub, it transfers the stress onto the hub. I have never had a wheel stud break because of spacers, and I have never had a wheel come loose because of spacers.
If your really nervous, get the hub centric ones:
http://perrinperformance.com/product...vo?category=46







