Spacers - 'yes/no' on a Track Car?
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Spacers - 'yes/no' on a Track Car?
Been considering larger rims and spacers for awhile and wanted to get a thread going for some general feedback.
I know a lot of people run spacers on their track cars, especially in the front. I know a lot of others caution to stay away from spacers if you can. Not sure if this is because of added stress to the hub or bearings?
So post up your opinion and any issues you've had.
What's the good and what's the bad?
I know a lot of people run spacers on their track cars, especially in the front. I know a lot of others caution to stay away from spacers if you can. Not sure if this is because of added stress to the hub or bearings?
So post up your opinion and any issues you've had.
What's the good and what's the bad?
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I am in the not a fan group. Law of Levers - moving a wheel further out would put stresses on hub/bearings. There is only so much you can move the wheel from the hub before the stresses becomes too much. Also have to worry about hub/spacer/wheel mating. Do they all sit flush? What is the material of the spacer? Is it different than the hub/wheel? How will it expand under heat? What about corrosion between two different metals? Something else to think about. What about suspension geometry? What are the spacers going to do to that?
I've run 12mm front spacers for 2 seasons with no issues.
When I switched to a set of CCW's with a non-specific Evo offset the folks at CCW provided a custom set of hub centric aluminum spacers....no issues from thier perspective...can't report back as the car has not been on the track yet...
When I switched to a set of CCW's with a non-specific Evo offset the folks at CCW provided a custom set of hub centric aluminum spacers....no issues from thier perspective...can't report back as the car has not been on the track yet...
I've been running 25mm spacer for 2 seasons now. No problems at all, just make sure wheels are tight before each session (you should do that anyways). I've heard of lugs coming somewhat loose because of heat, but haven't experinced that yet
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Even if you don't run spacers your going to eventually bust your hubs/bearings. I run lots - 25mm front and 10mm rear usually with 285 rubber. Lots of Porsche's, GT's etc as mentioned use spacers all day. Just don't do something redicilous like put a 225 tire out on a 80mm spacer. Keep the rubber as close to center as it would be on smaller wheels/tires. Racing - remember it's not a matter of IF but WHEN.
Even if you don't run spacers your going to eventually bust your hubs/bearings. I run lots - 25mm front and 10mm rear usually with 285 rubber. Lots of Porsche's, GT's etc as mentioned use spacers all day. Just don't do something redicilous like put a 225 tire out on a 80mm spacer. Keep the rubber as close to center as it would be on smaller wheels/tires. Racing - remember it's not a matter of IF but WHEN.
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Been considering larger rims and spacers for awhile and wanted to get a thread going for some general feedback.
I know a lot of people run spacers on their track cars, especially in the front. I know a lot of others caution to stay away from spacers if you can. Not sure if this is because of added stress to the hub or bearings?
So post up your opinion and any issues you've had.
What's the good and what's the bad?
I know a lot of people run spacers on their track cars, especially in the front. I know a lot of others caution to stay away from spacers if you can. Not sure if this is because of added stress to the hub or bearings?
So post up your opinion and any issues you've had.
What's the good and what's the bad?
Let me ask this - if you were custom ordering/designing a set of wheels for the Evo with the same offsets (so you can rotate everywhere) what would you do? Goal is a strong and long-lasting setup for the tires/rims/bearings etc.
In a perfect world, would you design something that would not need spacers to run?
I know larger tires will require more work/effort and then you're going to have to talk about wider fendor or a kit - but I'm not wanting to get into that discussion here.
Agreed, That's a very good question. But here's another one
Why re-invent the wheel? Considering time and money spent with that vs other improvements. Especially if the wheel is lost, stolen, broken, bent, what'll it cost to replace? Will you have to wait...miss a race? I'd rather buy a Billit or 4340 hub that would take unearthly powers to break but that's just purely my opinion.
However, i'd still be interested in an answer to the "ultimate wheel" question from a geek standpoint.
Why re-invent the wheel? Considering time and money spent with that vs other improvements. Especially if the wheel is lost, stolen, broken, bent, what'll it cost to replace? Will you have to wait...miss a race? I'd rather buy a Billit or 4340 hub that would take unearthly powers to break but that's just purely my opinion.
However, i'd still be interested in an answer to the "ultimate wheel" question from a geek standpoint.
i would use a different off sets front and rear instead the spacer, IF i need a different track front rear.
I have and had a bad feeling about them, so i never used them. I see more problem possibilities and error possibilities with them, then without them.
In racing try to keep work with less parts and more simple. In my mind.
But im not a road racer really so it is just one way to look at it.
i dont like to end up like this dude ... ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I
im not saying he had a spacers , but more part to check there is more chance to go wrong
Anyway i think its hilarious
I have and had a bad feeling about them, so i never used them. I see more problem possibilities and error possibilities with them, then without them.
In racing try to keep work with less parts and more simple. In my mind.
But im not a road racer really so it is just one way to look at it.
i dont like to end up like this dude ...
everhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I
im not saying he had a spacers , but more part to check there is more chance to go wrong
Anyway i think its hilarious
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i would use a different off sets front and rear instead the spacer, IF i need a different track front rear.
I have and had a bad feeling about them, so i never used them. I see more problem possibilities and error possibilities with them, then without them.
In racing try to keep work with less parts and more simple. In my mind.
But im not a road racer really so it is just one way to look at it.
i dont like to end up like this dude ... ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I
im not saying he had a spacers , but more part to check there is more chance to go wrong
Anyway i think its hilarious
I have and had a bad feeling about them, so i never used them. I see more problem possibilities and error possibilities with them, then without them.
In racing try to keep work with less parts and more simple. In my mind.
But im not a road racer really so it is just one way to look at it.
i dont like to end up like this dude ...
everhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I
im not saying he had a spacers , but more part to check there is more chance to go wrong
Anyway i think its hilarious
Now Im really scared!... could lug nuts have done that?
So If I have +30 wheels and I add 10mm spacers...is it +40 OR +20????
