project:BDR 2006 Evo STU build thread
I was at 7" with helpers/couplers but I won't be able to fit 285s with that setup. The Eibachs are maybe not as good as Hypercoil/Swift in this regard (how much travel they have before bind) but it's still pretty good. Per Sam @ Stranoparts "The block height of the 700 Eibach is 2.87". So 3.13" of travel total. 3100# car, 60/40, so ~930 lbs on each corner (** roughly!) so the spring is compressed something like 1.4" at rest, leaving roughly 1.7" before bind?
My 6" hyperco 800lb front spring has 3.5" of stroke. With the 0.91 MR, that's 3.85" of total wheel travel. Static sprung weight is about 800lbs which gives a static compression of 1.2". That leave 2.65" of travel and I set my ride height with 2" of clearance to the cut fender edge which it just occasionally rubs the edge protector. 6" in spring is just fine for length.
Rear with a 0.73 MR gives a lot more travel. Its way more than 250lbs of sprung weight though, on my 2950lb car its around 500lbs sprung weight. For a more normal 900lb/in spring (not my 1450s), that would be just over 1" of static wheel travel. Even a swift 5" spring with 2.5" of usable stroke would have way more than enough due to the motion ratio. Thats 2.5/0.73 = 3.4" of wheel travel and only 1" of static compression. Again, I use 2" of clearance to my fenders so plenty of range.
EDIT: Just quick checked my spreadsheet, should have used 0.96 front and 0.71 rear. My memory aint what it use to be
Rear with a 0.73 MR gives a lot more travel. Its way more than 250lbs of sprung weight though, on my 2950lb car its around 500lbs sprung weight. For a more normal 900lb/in spring (not my 1450s), that would be just over 1" of static wheel travel. Even a swift 5" spring with 2.5" of usable stroke would have way more than enough due to the motion ratio. Thats 2.5/0.73 = 3.4" of wheel travel and only 1" of static compression. Again, I use 2" of clearance to my fenders so plenty of range.
EDIT: Just quick checked my spreadsheet, should have used 0.96 front and 0.71 rear. My memory aint what it use to be
Last edited by Dallas J; May 23, 2022 at 02:42 PM.
Rear with a 0.73 MR gives a lot more travel. Its way more than 250lbs of sprung weight though, on my 2950lb car its around 500lbs sprung weight. For a more normal 900lb/in spring (not my 1450s), that would be just over 1" of static wheel travel. Even a swift 5" spring with 2.5" of usable stroke would have way more than enough due to the motion ratio. Thats 2.5/0.73 = 3.4" of wheel travel and only 1" of static compression. Again, I use 2" of clearance to my fenders so plenty of range.
225 lbs is per corner so ~450lbs sprung weight
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For some perspective - the last time the car felt truly dialed in was 2013
After our daughter was born, I wasn't autoxing frequently and the only real change I made before this year was going from 600/800 to 700/900 back in.. 2015 (?) to account for the wider tires (255s at the time). So this year is almost starting from scratch for me from a combination of rust and all the rule changes. TL;DR, I think:
* thoroughly document how the car is /right now/
* get back to a sort of known baseline alignment-wise and ride-height wise
* try higher A052 pressures
* iterate from there, trying to make one change at a time.
* worry about 285 fitment later
1" is still 900lbs in your case
You need to double check your numbers or approach then. The back of an Evo just weighs more than that, but a lot. Factory corner weights are in the 600-700lb range and roughly 100-125lbs for unsprung weight (wheels, tires, brakes, uprights, bearings, stroked part of shock, and half of axle and control arms). The lightest stripped down drag evos would kill to get to only 225lbs of sprung rear corner weight.
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FWIW, my car from like 2013. Wheel/tire package is heavier and I have a regular-old Autozone battery now and an FMIC so it's certainly a bit higher and frontheavier.










