heel toe shifting technique
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Get down there and grab the gas pedal , now firmly pull it toward the brake you don't need much effort it will stay there and make the heel toe foot roll thing much easier. practice when you are at slower speeds it's not that hard to master.
Get down there and grab the gas pedal , now firmly pull it toward the brake you don't need much effort it will stay there and make the heel toe foot roll thing much easier. practice when you are at slower speeds it's not that hard to master.
I've personal never have gotten comfortable with heel toe. I've been told that if you don't do it it will hurt your lap times. I'd personal rather stab the clutch, down shift and easy off the clutch so I don't upset the balance of the car.
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Proper heel-toe will not upset the balance of the car. The whole point is to smoothly match rpms between gears. It isn't necessary on every downshift, but properly executed it will improve lap times. I do it unconsciously on the street now so its second nature. The harder the braking the easier the heel-toe is, so its actually much harder to perform on the street than it is on the track going into your main braking zones.
I've got a bracket welded to the master cyl, then SS brake lines, then AP's kit, then Endless fluid so I have an Ultra stiff pedal. I also raised the pedal with some washers by about 3mm, so when I go into hard braking it's level with my gas pedal.
Be careful who youre getting advice from. There are people in this thread that are giving you bad advice. At the same rate, understand that there are varying types of pros with different types of perspectives. Also, there are some pros who either cant rev match, or theyre used to not doing it. So just because someones a pro doesnt mean you should follow their method. On that note, i recommend you learn how to rev match. Its actually very easy when you get the hang of it. If youre doing HPDEs regularly and still cant do it, you might have to adjust your pedals to better fit you.
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Be careful who youre getting advice from. There are people in this thread that are giving you bad advice. At the same rate, understand that there are varying types of pros with different types of perspectives. Also, there are some pros who either cant rev match, or theyre used to not doing it. So just because someones a pro doesnt mean you should follow their method. On that note, i recommend you learn how to rev match. Its actually very easy when you get the hang of it. If youre doing HPDEs regularly and still cant do it, you might have to adjust your pedals to better fit you.
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Proper heel-toe will not upset the balance of the car. The whole point is to smoothly match rpms between gears. It isn't necessary on every downshift, but properly executed it will improve lap times. I do it unconsciously on the street now so its second nature. The harder the braking the easier the heel-toe is, so its actually much harder to perform on the street than it is on the track going into your main braking zones.
I practive by driving my 80 YO mom to lunch heel-toing the entire way trying to be as smooth as possible.
the amount of rev match is literally unconscious. I don't think about it at all but somehow it's right on the money 95% of the time.
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I've got a weird idea and want to get some feedback. Heel toe does help assist slowing you down when road racing. It has always been hard for me heel toe. This can complicate your braking in my opinion. I’ve always been a big advocate on K.I.S.S. so you can keep all your focus on braking. I came up with this idea.
So when you’re on the clutch and brake at the same time it this will send extra voltage to the TPS signal on the ECU and cause the rpm to rev up. We also have a switch to turn it on or off
This is just a theory with extra voltage causing the rpm not to drop.
So when you’re on the clutch and brake at the same time it this will send extra voltage to the TPS signal on the ECU and cause the rpm to rev up. We also have a switch to turn it on or off
This is just a theory with extra voltage causing the rpm not to drop.
simply increasing voltage at the TPS won't actually allow any additional air into the engine, it will only cause the ecu to possibly inject more fuel and make it run rich. I don't think you'll actually get any rpm's out of it.
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I do heal and toe if the turn some reason becomes a slower turn(gravel or dirt, wet etc. Been thown on it) so my rpm would be too low to make the turn safe etc. Then i do heal and toe( since i need the immadiate higher rpm for power not to slowing down
, also when you go back to second or first. (Hairpin. Etc) I do like heal and toe, but some times just a waste of efford on stock tranny of ours. In my opinion, and experience.
This comes from a rally guy not from a road racer.
Rob