The 8/9 is a great platform. Not too many platforms can say that in stock form the car will impress you, with bolt on power mods you can almost double horsepower safely. Suspension wise there are a ton of options and can taylor the car to your driving style. Want s stupid amount of HP? It's possible. Since you have some seat time already you know the costs of fluids brakes, tires etc. That will come with all race cars. Driving wise from stock form the car will understeer. Restack diff, RSB and some coils will cut that little to none in my opinion. I'm in my second year autocrossing(first with the Evo 9) and have a few track days as well. Have bolt ons and some coils with a clutch. The car is extremely reliable.(my DD) I really think the sky is the limit for what you really want to do with this car. Not to mention it looks bad ***👍

 

Double the power with bolt-ons?
I guess, (technically) cams, turbo, fuel pump, and injectors all bolt on. LOL

 

When you consider a stock Evo is about 230-240 whp. FMIC, TBE, intake, injectors, fuel pump, E85 to 400whp, it's pretty close.

 

Hehe Thanks man, you have a PM about your 8 for sale.

Agreed, but easier said than done for a lot of us.

Yeah will do. I actually get free brake components from my Father who is an Executive at Akebono Brake company so that cuts down on Pad costs a lot. The GTI has been amazingly reliable for so long but currently it seems my luck has run out. I have spent more time and money fixing this car in the last few months that basically anything is going to be cheaper at this point.

This ^. If one person here can say they have never done anything childish on the road at one point in their life then I say you are a god among men.

Yeah man it seems like that's the consensus here. Just an awesome platform to work on and honestly it'll be a breath of fresh air to be surprised by a stock car. I had to do SO much work to the GTI to even get it to a respectable point dynamically. Cheers man, this is all helpful info.

Hahaha I can "technically" bolt-on a 2.4L stroker too hehe Joke aside though I mean it seems even things like turbo swaps are extremely easy with these cars. So if we talk about bolt-on meaning things that don't take much work then all those things apply. Honestly I can't wait to start modding this platform and doing it right and cleanly this time.

Thanks for the help so far guys. Beers on me if you are ever in Detroit.

 

Mentioning street racing in the motorsports forum might just help you get your *** kicked.



Also, OP you have a really long list of mods you want to do to the car even before you've flogged it. I found that interesting, but in the end it's your car.

The evo is very capable and being AWD/FI you will have to re-learn a few things when pushing it at the limit. Other than that, if you can be open to how it behaves when pushed you will find that the car is an amazing machine.

Good luck!

 

Thanks for the reply. That mod list is the end game goal. I will be spending a long time with the car with only basic things done. I always replace bushings, pads, fluid, and tires when I first get my cars but I will be learning it for a while with just that stuff. This post was moved into the Motorsports forum by the mods but the car will also be used as a somewhat daily driver too. I'm looking forward to a car that doesn't light the tires up in 3-4 gears out of corners. Open diff FWD FTL haha

 

Hey Will

Change of topic

How common is E85 w/the turbo Golf group. Is there a large no. that have converted or is it still a bit of black art.

Ive got a work associate w/the Audi 2.0T but seems like the Audi guys have noted their fuel lines are not compatible so it has not caught on

Appreciate your thoughts

Joe

 

Not common at all. In fact I was one of the only people in NA running a high content E85 tune. The system itself is actually just fine as far as safety goes. The fuel lines are proven to hold up to E85 and the injectors do fine (No gunk as long as you run one tank of 93 through the system every once and a while) BUT the issue with E85 catching on is direct injection in my opinion. You have to realize that you can't just throw in 1000+ CC injectors, a walbro 255 pump and tune for it. Direct injection injectors are complicated and flow at a much higher rate to begin with. So even running E85 on simple stock turbo and bolt on setups is almost maxing out the fuel systems on the FSI engines (TSI's and Gen3 TSI are a bit better). With a medium turbo (K04, Hybrid K04 setups) and big turbos (GT3071R+) the fueling system can barely take pump fuel without some crazy modifications. The 500+ WHP guys all pretty much run extra injector setups which means they literally throw a AUX injector in the intake manifold.

So long story short is me and a few (increasingly more) others have had great results running E85 tunes but it simply isn't a popular enough option. It's a snowball effect you know? I think E85 use is so mainstream in the 4G63, Subie, SS/TC, Focus ST communities that newcomers feel comfortable running it and it gets more popular. In the 2.0T Vdub world there is only a couple guys running it so I think people are just a bit scared to leap into the unknown you know? I think if our motors had a bit more fueling overhead than things would be different but we just don't have a simple way to increase fuel volume that much because of direct injection. I miss E85 and can't wait to dive in with a tried and true platform.

 

Thanks!

Now, Lets do this EVO purchase

 

I'm starting to look around for semi-clean cars with a budget of "about" 17K. I am also starting the part-out of my GTI which I realize is going to be absolute hell haha

 

Evos are great dual purpose car, for DD and track. it will be cheaper to buy one with some of the mods you're looking for already on it then to do all the mods yourself.

that being said, i dont think evo are the best first car for you to track with if you're serious about racing. it can compensate for a lot of mistakes and you'll learn bad driving habits. if you want to get into road course racing, start with rwd platform, miata or e36 m3. there's plenty of those well prepped selling at decent price. but the best first track car to learn on is an s2000, but im bias. if you can drive an s2k, you can drive anything.

 

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If I could do it all over again I would get a C5 corvette and build it for TT2/3. Local track is Road Atlanta and they dominate. Plus you cannot beat the price and cost of repairs, especially compared to an Evo.

 

C5 z06 definitely dominate nasa TT3 class. especially when they can be detune and have a flat power curve. the vette aero are also more superior to the evo. c5 do have some weakness like cooling and wheel bearing. my friend was going through wheel bearings every few events. until he got after market wheel bearings at $400 each corner.

 

Yeah. Only 60-80+ whp shy of "double". 70% is really close to 100%. ☺