TT3 has weight to power ratio of 10:1 this year. so if that car weigh 3000 lbs, then it cant be more than 300 whp. there's also an HP penalty for having aero in TT3.

 

yeh, parts falling off a car infront of you = you still have time to react.. Good luck reacting to front wing failure lol.. Ether way, i wouldn't drive just because its fulgy looking on top.

 

So, let me guess, your car has ZERO rock chips on the front bumper because you can avoid everything the comes off of the car ahead of you.


Get over yourself. The front wing adds downforce and makes for more fast. It may not look the greatest, but the Tilton evo looks equally silly with the quadruple wide front splitter setup, we all know that car means the business.

 

*like button*

 

lol.. you are compering rock chips to big *** gilotine, 3 feet in front of your windshield ? dude my opinion move on

 

I brought up rock chips because you said a part falling off of a car in front of you is avoidable, which would also mean rocks kicked up by the car in front of you should also avoidable, so by your own words, the front of your car should be pristine.

You saying it's "your opinion" doesn't protect you from ridicule for making stupid points/comments. Your "opinion" is still wrong, and saying its just your opinion doesn't make it right. The wing is likely there to add more down-force by circumventing a rule that has to do with front splitter size, but doesn't mention anything about a high mount front wing, as mentioned earlier in the thread. I like how you completely avoided my comment on the tilton evo, likely because you have no retort.

 

during track days or time attack, how often do you follow another car close enough, and long enough, where a body part ( wing, bumper or whatever ) would detach itself from it and you would not have enough time to avoid it. This is NOT F1, this is amateur racing. Most parts that you see on cars were not even properly tested. It is a DIY stuff.

I remember Cyber Evo wing failure ( wind tunnel tested car ). I remember seeing a video of STI with a wing failure at VIR ( correct me if Im wrong about the track).

Here you have a wing infront of your car. Not for a minute or 2, its there for the whole duration of your race. Go ahead, drive this car 150+mph in a windy weather, and be confident there won't be any catastrophic failures with this wing during your 20min session. You loose your rear wing, you will spin out and crash, but most likely you will walk away.

You will loose this wing, first impact is the front windshield. You better hope the windshield will stop the wing from penetrating you.

At the end of a day what we do is just for fun, SAFE fun.

I didn't comment on Tilton Evo because to me it looks badass, and I like it. THis however is silly.

Anyways, move along Keyboard Jockey. Im done talking to you.

 

Keyboard jockey? lawlz...

 

Also remember, that both of those wings were trunk mounted, with the Cyber Evo's wing being mounted to a flimsy dry carbon trunk skin. While I suppose it's still a risk, a chassis mounted wing (like this front one is) should not have that sort of failure.

 

+1

The bolded. But once it's done properly and the owner is getting what they want out of it, more power to them!

 

So much hate in this thread. I never come here anymore...... but let me see if i can contribute

1) the guy, greg smith, is beyond fantastic as a driver. He's probably the best in the entire field

2) he runs a shop that does good work. I was there and saw the car in person and did a full nerds eye view inspection. I'm an ******* when it comes to properly engineered stuff, and his **** gets two thumbs up from me.

3) his angle of attack isn't very aggressive. His aero package is also far from fully developed. This year will be interesting for sure when it comes to this build as he has a lot more he has yet to do.

4) there are a lot of intricacies about his setup that he refuses to share. He's just not the type to share unless you're paying him fat cash to bulid a car for you.

5) OP, you coming to the nasa event in dallas this weekend? I'll be there! Look for the blue X in a varis widebody

His build thread is here.
https://www.trackjunkies.org/topic/4...e-trial-build/

Track junkies is a local forum for Texas/south region track folk. If any of you are in the area, i highly suggest you join I'm only 1 of 2 evo people on the boards.

 

looking forward to seeing him at the East coast national this year at watkins glen

 

See... This is the attitude I like to see. No need to knock someone for being innovative, especially when it's functional.

 

Just got back from the NASA event last night.

Greg smith was at it again in his double winged M3 and took the win in TT3.

Funny thing though, he ran a session Sunday without BOTH wings. His time only dropped by .8 seconds. Not nearly as much as i would have guessed. His time without aero was still enough to win tt3 this past weekend. A real testament to his driving skill.

 

he can gain .3 hp/weight ratio if he run car without aero. i was thinking of testing my car without aero also.