nice !!

 

Yes its adjustable. Just loosen the upper and lower nuts (pictured) and the main attachment bolt, then turn the rod to the height needed. I just haven’t adjusted it since I don’t have any harnesses yet.

 

This might be a dumb question, but can you take the stock seat belts off when you attach the bar?

 

And is that mounting point where the seat belts are really that strong? I know it has to be because it has to hold the seatbelts in an accident, but is it enough to hold a bar like that with the additional loads, and the fact that they claim that it stiffens the chassis?

 

Depends on if you're using a street legal harness or not, which also depends on which state you're in. Most companies don't recommend removing the stock belt though.

All of the stock belt attachment points are part of the frame, and on strong mounting points. I don't think the bar weighs more than about 20-30 lb and it still creates a load in the same direction and force as stock in the event of a collision.

The only thing you really don't get with this compared to a roll bar or cage is rollover protection.

 

I want to have one installed before Aug 21st...think I can get my hands on one before that?

 

I don't think that bar would be safe with rear passengers. That's a very hard thing for little heads to hit in a hard crash and seatbelts sometimes stretch/break.

 

What happens in a rollover? I thought that driving schools wouldn't let you run these because they are unsafe. As in, you are crushed by the roof because you are held in the upright position. A regular shoulder belt allows your body to flex to the side or front and not get squished. I thought you had to have a true roll bar/cage to use race harnesses. Is this a safety issue?

 

I had heard something similar to that, and it definitely makes sense. Should a roll cage be a mandatory safety requirement for use with these harnesses?

 

You really need at least a rollbar before considering harnesses. Just a harness bar is NOT safe.

Warren

 

Yes it is a little unsafe in the case of a rollover, but most track events allow it. Rollovers are extremely rare, and even then the roof often holds up enough to not crush the driver. I saw quite a few people at Dubwars using this setup, and even more people using a bolt in harness without a bar.

Maybe put roll bar padding on it?

 

I plan on using the harness bar for a show piece. Who the hell wants to drive on the street with racing harnesses on anyway? You would look like an idiot.

I plan on using the bar for the harnesses, but driving to and from with the factory belts.

My $.02

 

That's what I do with my harness already. The shoulder belts easily slide over to the side, and in some models are detachable in a snap (Top Spin makes such a harness)

 

Got a link to Top Spin?

(edited since we cleared up the confusion) -UK

 

That's cool. I don't know if Top Spin has their own site, but they sell products through racerfactory.com http://www.racerfactory.com/gear/tsd_harness.asp I saw a couple of those in my friend's GTIs and they were nice, including buckles on both the front and back of the shoulder belts, so you could almost remove the entire harness when not in use (just tuck the lap belt under the seat). The carbon fiber backet is recommended if your car does not have holes in the seat for the shoulder belts (not an issue in the Evo, of course).