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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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they can see the pending date if they look, because it is on the court records. Fact of the matter is they probably didn't bother looking.

or must be tougher on tickets because there are tons of reasons to get tickets dropped in wa. My lawyer has near 100% record on getting tickets dropped, but that is for wa.

Btw - i think it is humorous when others say stuff like "shouldn't have been speeding" and "man up" to a fellow user when the fact is that we all speed. Just cause you aren't caught doesn't mean you aren't breaking the law. Should we all "man up" when we go 5 over? Hell no!

I would "man up" if i caused an actual issue but i will not "man up" and pay a fine if i can get out of it. Especially since speeding tickets are mostly a way to stimulate funding for the city, county, etc.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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So I guess the myth of OR "speed" signs (as opposed to speed limit signs in WA) are incorrect?
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Call the DA office and tell them your happy to pay the ticket if they don't put it on your record. It worked for me in bass ackwards Lousiana. (no offense to people, just the laws!)

I have to say too that the only place that is safe to speed, is the track. Cops or not, people or not. I speed too, but to say find a back road isn't right either.

Good luck with the ticket.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Yeah, I agree, there are speeders that very much deserve the tickets they get, but I don't feel like I fit that category. I hate people who are constantly tailgating, changing lanes to try and pass, etc... annoys the hell out of me. But if everybody in the left lane is doing 65, and there's someone going 50 and blocking traffic, this is actually really unsafe, even if the limit is 55. It makes everybody change lanes, honk, get pissed, etc. Ironic how the person going under the limit and driving "legally" is much more likely to cause an accident.

Anyhow, I will just go to court and fight it. I already went for the first one and plead not guilty, and I'll likely do the same with the second, and just see where it goes. With a clean record, I would hope they'd at least reduce it. I'll probably just be honest, and I may ask to see how / when the instruments were last calibrated, as I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were a little off.

I appreciate all the advice... I will hopefully have an adequate outcome, as I'd rather not have insurance jacked up, etc!
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trevor
Yeah, I agree, there are speeders that very much deserve the tickets they get, but I don't feel like I fit that category. I hate people who are constantly tailgating, changing lanes to try and pass, etc... annoys the hell out of me. But if everybody in the left lane is doing 65, and there's someone going 50 and blocking traffic, this is actually really unsafe, even if the limit is 55. It makes everybody change lanes, honk, get pissed, etc. Ironic how the person going under the limit and driving "legally" is much more likely to cause an accident.

Anyhow, I will just go to court and fight it. I already went for the first one and plead not guilty, and I'll likely do the same with the second, and just see where it goes. With a clean record, I would hope they'd at least reduce it. I'll probably just be honest, and I may ask to see how / when the instruments were last calibrated, as I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were a little off.

I appreciate all the advice... I will hopefully have an adequate outcome, as I'd rather not have insurance jacked up, etc!
It's actually illegal to impede the flow of traffic. Just cops don't enforce it, as there's more money in ticketing speeders.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Everyone speeds a bit every once in a while. Doing 65 in a 60 zone in the left lane while everyone in the middle and right lanes are doing 85 is unsafe. Happens daily on 95north here in the east coast. We all know that the speed limit is set unbearably low because it is a revenue generating system. There are many other countries with higher speed limits or no speed limits at all with lower accidents and fatality rates than the United States. As long as the speed is in line with the flow, that speed is the safest bet.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trevor
Anyone know of any good lawyers?

and WTF is up with the replies "you deserve it!..."

are you telling me you've never done 46 in a 35 zone?? It was about 10:00 on a clear night with nobody else on the 4-lane (2 each way) road?? Yeeeahhh... I was even not attempting to go fast. A 40-45 mph limit would make plenty of sense on this section of this road - there's no intersections, no sidewalks... nothin'.
It doesnt matter what everyone else does your the one that got caught,you broke the law now face the consequences.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yahu
They can see the pending date if they look, because it is on the court records. Fact of the matter is they probably didn't bother looking.

OR must be tougher on tickets because there are tons of reasons to get tickets dropped in WA. My lawyer has near 100% record on getting tickets dropped, but that is for WA.

BTW - I think it is humorous when others say stuff like "shouldn't have been speeding" and "man up" to a fellow user when the fact is that we all speed. Just cause you aren't caught doesn't mean you aren't breaking the law. Should we all "man up" when we go 5 over? Hell no!

I would "man up" if I caused an actual issue but I will not "man up" and pay a fine if I can get out of it. Especially since speeding tickets are mostly a way to stimulate funding for the city, county, etc.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trevor
Yeah, I agree, there are speeders that very much deserve the tickets they get, but I don't feel like I fit that category. I hate people who are constantly tailgating, changing lanes to try and pass, etc... annoys the hell out of me. But if everybody in the left lane is doing 65, and there's someone going 50 and blocking traffic, this is actually really unsafe, even if the limit is 55. It makes everybody change lanes, honk, get pissed, etc. Ironic how the person going under the limit and driving "legally" is much more likely to cause an accident.

Anyhow, I will just go to court and fight it. I already went for the first one and plead not guilty, and I'll likely do the same with the second, and just see where it goes. With a clean record, I would hope they'd at least reduce it. I'll probably just be honest, and I may ask to see how / when the instruments were last calibrated, as I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were a little off.

I appreciate all the advice... I will hopefully have an adequate outcome, as I'd rather not have insurance jacked up, etc!
Definitely research regarding what you will need to do. You likely won't get a look at calibration or the officer unless they are both subpoenaed. Again, that is how it works in WA, anyway.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Give the guy a break.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and guess you've never hurt anyone with your driving, so those out there who say 'because you got two tickets ... in a couple of weeks' means you're a bad driver, and you deserve it are not really being fair or thinking straight.

I don't know how speed limits are conjured up, but I'm pretty confident they didn't base them on the capabilities of a 300hp, all wheel drive, brembo equipped, rally race bred street car. Cars like ours are quick but, more importantly, stop a hell of a lot sooner than anything that was available when those signs went up. If safety is really what everyone is so concerned about then maybe what car and who is driving it should be a major consideration too - instead of just being hypocritical 'i told you so' sheep.

You got hit with real bad luck. But everything happens for a reason, and what goes around comes around - try not to worry too much about it.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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why bust drug dealers and fight real crime when you can get people going a little fast and give them outrageous tickets. Im all for driving safe and not abusing the road but the way our systems works is to get you the first second you make a mistake because you wont expect them. The a**holes in trucks, and speeding people coming home from work are clueless to how there speeding affects others. I myself do speed a little here and there, but not if its gonna impose on someone else driving or cut people off. We drive fast cars so its hard to keep them slow all the time its gonna happen. Other countries you can drive alot faster because they respect the roads and how to drive them. If this country kept up with driving safety and also maybe retesting people with a harder driving test it could help. Our cars are built to handle and perform better than most cars anyway so I see it as driving a performance car even normally on the roads is being safer than driving lets say a kia the same speed because every aspect of the car will handle better in any situation you come upon.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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Sorry about your bad luck bro!
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by trevor
Yeah, I agree, there are speeders that very much deserve the tickets they get, but I don't feel like I fit that category. I hate people who are constantly tailgating, changing lanes to try and pass, etc... annoys the hell out of me. But if everybody in the left lane is doing 65, and there's someone going 50 and blocking traffic, this is actually really unsafe, even if the limit is 55. It makes everybody change lanes, honk, get pissed, etc. Ironic how the person going under the limit and driving "legally" is much more likely to cause an accident.

Anyhow, I will just go to court and fight it. I already went for the first one and plead not guilty, and I'll likely do the same with the second, and just see where it goes. With a clean record, I would hope they'd at least reduce it. I'll probably just be honest, and I may ask to see how / when the instruments were last calibrated, as I wouldn't be at all surprised if they were a little off.

I appreciate all the advice... I will hopefully have an adequate outcome, as I'd rather not have insurance jacked up, etc!
I agree with you about the jerks doing 50 in 55... ugh. Causes so many problems

I don't know how long you've been driving, but make sure you point out to the judge that you have a perfect record. I've seen someone get off that way before.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by deepee1
I don't know how speed limits are conjured up, but I'm pretty confident they didn't base them on the capabilities of a 300hp, all wheel drive, brembo equipped, rally race bred street car. Cars like ours are quick but, more importantly, stop a hell of a lot sooner than anything that was available when those signs went up..
An even more important reason for speed limits. Most people don't realize our cars can stop on a dime, and we come to a sudden stop in xx amount of feet, that isn't really fair for the person behind us that takes xxx amount of feet. Not sure where you were going with that, but just because our car can get us out of sticky situations, doesn't mean it doesn't create and help other's sticky situations around us.
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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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damn. GL bro.

I never disputed tickets that I received. Its because I'm too guilty to even try disputing. I hope they lower your ticket amounts. They are'nt cheap!

Well like yahu said - its a form of city funding. At least be thankful for contrubuting to the Govt!
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