Just dynoed 449WHP on stock 2003 turbo :)
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^ Aaron and Lucas are great guys and they are highly respected. They don't fudge numbers or do "crazy" things to make stock turbos do "crazy" things.
As Aaron put my numbers up... I pushed my IX turbo fairly hard. Resulted in having to buy a new one Now I have a Red and love it. They are hands down the best tuners in the area or in the US in my opinion and are 100% honest with everyone and are hear to help the evo community. So please to try and discredit anything they say. Thanks
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As Aaron put my numbers up... I pushed my IX turbo fairly hard. Resulted in having to buy a new one Now I have a Red and love it. They are hands down the best tuners in the area or in the US in my opinion and are 100% honest with everyone and are hear to help the evo community. So please to try and discredit anything they say. Thanks
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I would like to add for the newbs that the stock VIII/IX turbo both move 42-44 lbs per min, the Evo 3 is reputed to only move 38 but we have one of those on a 1G Eclipse that made 453whp corrected. The Evo engine bay stays a fairly constant temp unless there is a drastic temperature swing one way or the other so typically the corrected to uncorrected numbers dont swing as much as you'd think. The exception would be if its 90+ or less than 30 out. AS you can see if you clicked on the dyno graph its 52.3 in the dyno cell, and "corrected" corrects to 60* or something low 60s.
Since judging by your post counts (167 & 104) I think you are fairly new around here and have some reading to do to get up to speed about what is and isnt possible. Heck a quick scan of my signature has 3 things that "arent possible" to most people
Everyone else thank you for your continuing support. Shawn it sounds like you had an interesting discovery...I'll call monday
Since judging by your post counts (167 & 104) I think you are fairly new around here and have some reading to do to get up to speed about what is and isnt possible. Heck a quick scan of my signature has 3 things that "arent possible" to most people
Everyone else thank you for your continuing support. Shawn it sounds like you had an interesting discovery...I'll call monday
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I would like to add for the newbs that the stock VIII/IX turbo both move 42-44 lbs per min, the Evo 3 is reputed to only move 38 but we have one of those on a 1G Eclipse that made 453whp corrected. The Evo engine bay stays a fairly constant temp unless there is a drastic temperature swing one way or the other so typically the corrected to uncorrected numbers dont swing as much as you'd think. The exception would be if its 90+ or less than 30 out. AS you can see if you clicked on the dyno graph its 52.3 in the dyno cell, and "corrected" corrects to 60* or something low 60s.
Since judging by your post counts (167 & 104) I think you are fairly new around here and have some reading to do to get up to speed about what is and isnt possible. Heck a quick scan of my signature has 3 things that "arent possible" to most people
Everyone else thank you for your continuing support. Shawn it sounds like you had an interesting discovery...I'll call monday
Since judging by your post counts (167 & 104) I think you are fairly new around here and have some reading to do to get up to speed about what is and isnt possible. Heck a quick scan of my signature has 3 things that "arent possible" to most people
Everyone else thank you for your continuing support. Shawn it sounds like you had an interesting discovery...I'll call monday
I also read the dynosheet. AND I also read the OP's mods. Based on that info, there is still no way in hell the car in question made that amount of power without a high reading dyno. I don't care what fuel was used.
**** I wonder what my VIII would have made on your dyno if it only made 290whp on GST's dyno with bolt-on's and a BBK Full. (Yes I know it is a mustang dyno) Comparatively it made only 30whp more on a local dynojet.
But you're taking us wayy off topic here...
The OP's vehicle is a bolt-ons 03' with the 9.8 hotside VIII turbo. It made 449whp. Fuel unknown, boost unknown. Let's assume it is e85 with a maxed out turbo.
Your fully-built race motor, with higher compression, heavy boost and e85 (albeit on a leaky BOV) made 419whp with a 10.5 VIII turbo.
Jake's car makes 436whp(assuming its also bolt-ons) on your dyno, IX turbo on e85.
Mikes car making 416whp on your dyno with w/m and "a TON of boost"
How does this justify his numbers?
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I love it more when people take all the effort to join a forum just to back someone up the first sign someone questions a shop in any way.
Go hump someone else's leg with your 1 post.
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Obviously you have not been around if you think these numbers are impossible.
I was at the dyno when he put these numbers down. He is using E85 and boost is graphed on the dyno sheet.
It's ok, Id be pissed too if I couldn't figure out how to make power.
what about E85? I know a guy down in Vancouver that made 430whp/417tq with a Evo3 16g on his Galant.
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I know dynos numbers are all just numbers, however Nate and I were able to get pretty good power out of my stock 9. The car was able to make a good pull and made around 39Xish and 419 tq. This was on a bone stock long block and clutch. Many people said it wasnt possible but it is what it is. I know the car is pretty quick because just rolling it off the line with a 2.56 60ft the car ran a mid 12 @ 113's.
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I don't see why people still don't see that some of these cars respond better to modifications. Whether it is in the build, the very specific parts combination, quality of installations, etc.
We've certainly all seen cars that perform less than expectations so why wouldn't there be some cars that perform better than expectations? I have no reason to doubt the folks at ER as I have personally watched their quality work, and as someone else mentioned in the thread, if the OP is happy with how the car feels, then that is all that really matters. FWIW - pretty much all the tracks are closed up here so 1/4 mile times/trap won't be seen for a while, I'm assuming.
Was this the first tune, miki? Do you know what you were putting down previously? Congrats, and enjoy!
We've certainly all seen cars that perform less than expectations so why wouldn't there be some cars that perform better than expectations? I have no reason to doubt the folks at ER as I have personally watched their quality work, and as someone else mentioned in the thread, if the OP is happy with how the car feels, then that is all that really matters. FWIW - pretty much all the tracks are closed up here so 1/4 mile times/trap won't be seen for a while, I'm assuming.
Was this the first tune, miki? Do you know what you were putting down previously? Congrats, and enjoy!
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I used to put down around 370WHP on pump gas along few years ago. other cars with similar bolt ons were about 330-340 whp.
I feel big help from cam gears adjusted to +4, as you can feel when driving past 5000 rpm the car start pulling with a feeling like "vtec" kicks in LOL. So I would atribute about 30WHP to my cam gears settings. Boost peaks under 30 PSI. It spools quite quick as well.
Its really nice to drive it with this power and its very responsive turbo
I feel big help from cam gears adjusted to +4, as you can feel when driving past 5000 rpm the car start pulling with a feeling like "vtec" kicks in LOL. So I would atribute about 30WHP to my cam gears settings. Boost peaks under 30 PSI. It spools quite quick as well.
Its really nice to drive it with this power and its very responsive turbo