E85 Proposition
Areas: I would definitely like to see some in the South sound area. I know Marysville has a station. And I heard Seattle has one now. Would love to see one in Kent, Federal Way, Auburn, Puyallup, etc.
Reason: There isn't a single one. NOT ONE! There are many flex fuel vehicles now. So many of the big Chevy SUV's are all flex fuel, but almost all of them still run gasoline. Somebody PLEASE open one up.
Purchasing E85: If a station was available nearby my residence. At least once a week.
Benefits: Give yourself a chance to widen the market. May not have a high demand as of now, but profit is profit. If it can be done, why not take a chance?
Reason: There isn't a single one. NOT ONE! There are many flex fuel vehicles now. So many of the big Chevy SUV's are all flex fuel, but almost all of them still run gasoline. Somebody PLEASE open one up.
Purchasing E85: If a station was available nearby my residence. At least once a week.
Benefits: Give yourself a chance to widen the market. May not have a high demand as of now, but profit is profit. If it can be done, why not take a chance?
I have been thinking more about this and I think Propel is the best chain to approach. They are already familiar with biofuels and have the infrastructure already in place. I really think it could be as simple as talking to the manager at their flagship location in Seattle and asking how many signatures he would need to bring in some E85. Then we hit up the various forums and make it happen.
Propel Fuels
Seattle, South Lake Union Flagship
609 Westlake Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
Propel Fuels
Seattle, South Lake Union Flagship
609 Westlake Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
Derek let me know when you plan on going around with these. Ill join in too
1). Areas in which you would like to see E85 available
Seattle, Bellevue area
2). The reason why
-Would convert to E85 full time, but with nothing reasonably close to fill up with I cant benefit from switching yet.
3). How often/how much would you be purchasing E85, and...
-Minimum 2/3 times a week, 11/12 gallons at a time. And possibly a 5 gallon jug for spare.
4). The benefit for the station carrying E85 (which is obvious to us but maybe not to them).
-Start suppling E85, the word will spread and people will come for miles to your station to get this stuff. It will generate tons of business, we all get snacks/drinks at gas stations too.
1). Areas in which you would like to see E85 available
Seattle, Bellevue area
2). The reason why
-Would convert to E85 full time, but with nothing reasonably close to fill up with I cant benefit from switching yet.
3). How often/how much would you be purchasing E85, and...
-Minimum 2/3 times a week, 11/12 gallons at a time. And possibly a 5 gallon jug for spare.
4). The benefit for the station carrying E85 (which is obvious to us but maybe not to them).
-Start suppling E85, the word will spread and people will come for miles to your station to get this stuff. It will generate tons of business, we all get snacks/drinks at gas stations too.
great way to take the initiative on this for the community as a whole. Much appreciated
I have been thinking more about this and I think Propel is the best chain to approach. They are already familiar with biofuels and have the infrastructure already in place. I really think it could be as simple as talking to the manager at their flagship location in Seattle and asking how many signatures he would need to bring in some E85. Then we hit up the various forums and make it happen.
Propel Fuels
Seattle, South Lake Union Flagship
609 Westlake Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
Propel Fuels
Seattle, South Lake Union Flagship
609 Westlake Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
http://www.propelfuels.com/content/contact/
I have been thinking more about this and I think Propel is the best chain to approach. They are already familiar with biofuels and have the infrastructure already in place. I really think it could be as simple as talking to the manager at their flagship location in Seattle and asking how many signatures he would need to bring in some E85. Then we hit up the various forums and make it happen.
Propel Fuels
Seattle, South Lake Union Flagship
609 Westlake Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
Propel Fuels
Seattle, South Lake Union Flagship
609 Westlake Avenue North
Seattle, Washington 98109
No problem, its the least I can do to help. I have a station less than a mile from me and after seeing first hand on my setup and other local guys set ups what E85 can do, it sucks seeing guys far between E85 stations who cant extract the most potential out of their setup.
Areas: I would definitely like to see some in the South sound area. I know Marysville has a station. And I heard Seattle has one now. Would love to see one in Kent, Federal Way, Auburn, Puyallup, etc.
Reason: There isn't a single one. NOT ONE! There are many flex fuel vehicles now. So many of the big Chevy SUV's are all flex fuel, but almost all of them still run gasoline. Somebody PLEASE open one up.
Purchasing E85: If a station was available nearby my residence. At least once a week.
Benefits: Give yourself a chance to widen the market. May not have a high demand as of now, but profit is profit. If it can be done, why not take a chance?
Reason: There isn't a single one. NOT ONE! There are many flex fuel vehicles now. So many of the big Chevy SUV's are all flex fuel, but almost all of them still run gasoline. Somebody PLEASE open one up.
Purchasing E85: If a station was available nearby my residence. At least once a week.
Benefits: Give yourself a chance to widen the market. May not have a high demand as of now, but profit is profit. If it can be done, why not take a chance?
I would at least use it twice a week.
it is a very big cost to place e85 in gas stations and most corporate companies such as circle k, ampm, arco, ect are not doing it due to company regulations. We have announced e85 coming to mill creek, WA soon, and leaking some info that Lynnwood might also be getting it on 196th st. Not sure about auburn area. Deffinetally Propel is the way to go, considering all the cost, maintenence, everything is their headache and they will pay a flat rate fee to the gas station owner depending on how many gallons of e85 they sell.
Also to help, we used Propel fuels as our e85 supplier, and their representative visits our property often. I can approach him about this issue.
Also to help, we used Propel fuels as our e85 supplier, and their representative visits our property often. I can approach him about this issue.
1). Areas in which you would like to see E85 available
-Seattle, Kirkland, Bellevue, Redmond, Lynnwood
2). The reason why
-Availability! I am a GM Technician and I actually work on numerous Flex Fuel vehicles everyday. I have talked to numerous GM Flex Fuel Vehicle Owners explaining what Flex Fuel and E85 is and what the cost and advantages to it are and ALMOST EVERY CUSTOMER that I have explained it too has said that they would definitely run E85 daily if it was more available. A lot of people LOVE the fact that it reduces the demand for foreign fuels. Another good point is the fact that NASCAR has now made the switch to E15 Fuel and are heavily marketing it. I think the information is out there now and people are interested. (Just like the old saying goes "Win on sunday sell on monday"). When NASCAR markets something people listen. This point just shows that E85 stations would be serving much more than just the Performance Car/Evo Community. I have been running E85 from the station up in Marysville for over a year now and I originally was only planning on running it on the weekends and during track days, but after seeing the advantages of tuning with it and how a good tune can actually limit the MPG loss I decided to run it daily and havn't turned back. The advantages really do outweigh the disadvantages even with the current 33 mile commute I have to make to get it.
3). How often/how much would you be purchasing E85, and...
-Right now I am currently filling up 2-3 times a week and I also keep a 5 gallon jug at my house.
4). The benefit for the station carrying E85 (which is obvious to us but maybe not to them).
-Supply and Demand! There is clearly a big demand for E85 especially with all the information coming out about the advantages to running it now days. I think a big factor is the fact that it reduces the reliance on foreign fuels. People want to buy products made in the U.S, buying E85 is a very good example and marketing strategy. If the station has the supply then people will come. Look at the commute I'm currently making for E85 as an example!
-Seattle, Kirkland, Bellevue, Redmond, Lynnwood
2). The reason why
-Availability! I am a GM Technician and I actually work on numerous Flex Fuel vehicles everyday. I have talked to numerous GM Flex Fuel Vehicle Owners explaining what Flex Fuel and E85 is and what the cost and advantages to it are and ALMOST EVERY CUSTOMER that I have explained it too has said that they would definitely run E85 daily if it was more available. A lot of people LOVE the fact that it reduces the demand for foreign fuels. Another good point is the fact that NASCAR has now made the switch to E15 Fuel and are heavily marketing it. I think the information is out there now and people are interested. (Just like the old saying goes "Win on sunday sell on monday"). When NASCAR markets something people listen. This point just shows that E85 stations would be serving much more than just the Performance Car/Evo Community. I have been running E85 from the station up in Marysville for over a year now and I originally was only planning on running it on the weekends and during track days, but after seeing the advantages of tuning with it and how a good tune can actually limit the MPG loss I decided to run it daily and havn't turned back. The advantages really do outweigh the disadvantages even with the current 33 mile commute I have to make to get it.
3). How often/how much would you be purchasing E85, and...
-Right now I am currently filling up 2-3 times a week and I also keep a 5 gallon jug at my house.
4). The benefit for the station carrying E85 (which is obvious to us but maybe not to them).
-Supply and Demand! There is clearly a big demand for E85 especially with all the information coming out about the advantages to running it now days. I think a big factor is the fact that it reduces the reliance on foreign fuels. People want to buy products made in the U.S, buying E85 is a very good example and marketing strategy. If the station has the supply then people will come. Look at the commute I'm currently making for E85 as an example!
Im pleased to see this much participation but we really need some more. You guys dont be bashful about this. Even if you dont really care that much, add your .02.
Blah blah blah! Wasn't I the one that told you about E85? You dont come out to meets much anymore so someone has to pick up the slack.
Last edited by D Grade; Jun 13, 2011 at 07:22 AM.
^so much for keeping it clean OP... 
1). Areas in which you would like to see E85 available
Monroe, Redmond, Bothel, Lynnwood, Everett
2). The reason why
Cause I want to save the polar bears; the penguin epidemic in the Arctic is getting out of hand! Also reduce depency on foreign oil, increase my carbon footprint, reduce kernels in my stool, allow those in traffic behind me to enjoy a sweeter exhaust aroma, blah-dy, blah-dy, blah...
3). How often/how much would you be purchasing E85
Likely 2x/week; unlike Ryan who enjoys paying the entirety of his fuel bill through the use of his earned income, I'd prefer to allow my tax dollars pay for 1/2. Since Ryan will be taxed regardless, I'd even be willing to allow his pre-paid 1/2 to come to my camp if we can work that out.
4). The benefit for the station carrying E85 (which is obvious to us but maybe not to them)
Build it, and we will come. This is one enthusiast forum; one of the smallest even. If some of the bigger groups also adopt I'm going to be concerned of the supply for my demand.
1). Areas in which you would like to see E85 available
Monroe, Redmond, Bothel, Lynnwood, Everett
2). The reason why
Cause I want to save the polar bears; the penguin epidemic in the Arctic is getting out of hand! Also reduce depency on foreign oil, increase my carbon footprint, reduce kernels in my stool, allow those in traffic behind me to enjoy a sweeter exhaust aroma, blah-dy, blah-dy, blah...
3). How often/how much would you be purchasing E85
Likely 2x/week; unlike Ryan who enjoys paying the entirety of his fuel bill through the use of his earned income, I'd prefer to allow my tax dollars pay for 1/2. Since Ryan will be taxed regardless, I'd even be willing to allow his pre-paid 1/2 to come to my camp if we can work that out.
4). The benefit for the station carrying E85 (which is obvious to us but maybe not to them)
Build it, and we will come. This is one enthusiast forum; one of the smallest even. If some of the bigger groups also adopt I'm going to be concerned of the supply for my demand.
Keep the interest coming guys!
this is a good idea, comming from a gas station owner, my first stock of e85/e98 will be in tomrrow and will be in the back in 500gallon tanks to test the waters before adding 2000-5000gallon in ground tank up front. Maybe you can mention it to the shell owner to keep a 500 gallon tank to keep the cost down. The gas company should supply them the tank.