Well I spent the day at MDR Performance getting the O.S. tuned yesterday and I can say I am quite surprised with the numbers Mike was able to pull. I was not sure if we would get much out of her this 1st round of tuning with just the basic bolt ons, but I was more hoping that it would just clean up some of the throttle lag and what I felt as a slight decrease in hp do to all the bolt ons with no tune. At 1st the O.S. was not responding to or liking the changesvery much, but after a pass or two she opened up. Mike did the tune in FWD mode on their Mustang Dyno, because not all O.S.'s are AWD, and he would like to make this tuning map available to all other O.S. owners.


Engine Mods as of this tune:
EvoX Throttle body
RRM 4-1 header
2.5" high flow cat
2.5" cat back with dual magna flow
RRM 4B11 light weight pulley
Geddy C.A.I with heat shield box
Ralliart Snorkel


The base line was 116 hp 104 ft. tq. (without the weather correction)
The final pass was 129 hp 120 ft. tq. (without the weather correction)


This is a 10% increase in horse power just with the tune on a N/A motor and that is pretty good!


With the weather correction on the Mustang Dyno;
The final pass numbers where 136.8 hp 127 ft. tq.


These numbers were pretty consistant to the numbers boosted was putting up on his prior to the cam install so I am ok with that. We are going to drop the cams in in a few weeks and see if we can get some more Hp out of her once again. The O.S. had a bunch of fuel pulled out around the upper rpms to get the afr's right (at a safe 12.7) and it has made a huge difference in the drive quality. So much smoother and responsive and a lot quicker, and I am super happy with the out come. The torque limiter tables were raised up 5-10% across the board as well, as to not throw be back in to limp mode for making the extra power and it has done the trick.


This is the way O.S.'s should have been from factory. I am hoping to end up at around 160 hp to the wheels or close to that on the Mustang Dyno after the cams get put in and retuned.


Mike, at MRD Performance in Kema Texas, will be offering that tuning map up soon as well. So anyone with the OBD2 cable and a lap top can plug and play the tuning map right into your car as well as make any correction necessary with Mike's guidance.

 

Here is the dyno sheet and a few pics of my O.S. up on the dyno.

 

Neat, although most of that is Greek to me. Pardon the ignorant question, but the original specs say "The RVR gets its power from a 2.0-litre inline four-cylinder engine which delivers 148 horsepower and 145 foot-pounds of torque." Why are your numbers low?

 

his numbers are power at the wheels - 148hp/145 ft-lbs are at the crank, before drivetrain losses.

i had no sleep last night. and can't think. i calculated 8% drivetrain loss, but that can't be right - should be more like 15-20%

 

Got it - thanks! I wonder about the CVT though...

 

CVT kills a ton of hp and Mustang dyno's are also know for not putting out as high of numbers as most other dynos.

 

I hate to see/imagine what the numbers are from our bone stock setup, if you're only getting 116hp with >
- light weight pulley
- C.A.I with heat shield box
- Ralliart Snorkel

Plus, all the other bolt-on's and exhaust upgrades you've done (before the tune**).


Very glad to hear/see you were able to regain the performance by ~17%
Thank You for attempting all these MODs and sharing the results!


But, I think that just Way TOO much fiddling to motor and exhaust to gain back the ~30HP.
That's just me.
I wish there was a less expensive way.
Or, like you said, this should've been from the factory.

I'm sorry for sounding like a grumpy cat today. I love this thread!


** May I ask how much did the Dyno,Analysis,and Tuning cost?
(This should be factored into the overall investment for these Mods.)

 

NA motors .... Spend thousands to gain 20hp. Pulley adds a little responsiveness, but no power. Intake and exhaust a few hp. Tuning is probably the best bang for the buck to squeeze a bit more out, aside from adding a turbo or supercharger.

I'm satisfied with the 2.4L - sure, more power is always good, but keeping in mind what it is and what we use it for, I'm not spending any money to change it. I never drove the 2.0L, but maybe my attitude would be different if I had one ...

If anything, I'd like to make it LESS responsive off the line.

 

Well, some people are determined to squeeze every last oz of performance out of even the most basic of things.. More power to them!


No different than a PC gamer trying to pump a few more FPS out of their gaming rig by spending a couple of grand on intel SSDs, quad nVidia GPUs, and liquid cooling system for their overclocked CPU.

 

Sports car, sure.

Compact SUV, ehhh.

I don't get $5000 rigs to play video games, either, but who gives a **** what I think.

 

Well, how about this example then -
Some women are willing to pay $10,000+ per... for increasing cough*I mean enhancing* how they fit into their bras from a 'c' to a "DD".
Now that I Don't understand... there's absolutely no added performance.

 

wow, for the price of a couple sweater puppies, they could buy a brand new Outback Sport! bewbs are nice, though .....

 

I have done a bunch of work through MDR on my 2006 EVO IX MR, and so it was a no brainer to take it back to Mike to have him work on the O.S.. He hooked my up on the tuning A LOT because he was more interested in making the data available for other O.S. owners to plug and play the Maps into their own vehicles. He is also going to retune my O.S. for no extra charge after he installs the EvoX Cams. He is also going o be doing so testing to see how the cams like being dropped in on a stock tune, for anyone wanting to do that mod with out tuning. He is going to be making all of this available so anyone can flash these maps on to their O.S. with out having to go through the process of having it tuned on the dyno. Basically my O.S. is benefiting from Mike's want to do the proper tuning and research on this platform for other O.S. owners.
It is not "thousands" I have spend on the motor either.

Greddy C.A.I. w/ heatshield = $180.00
RRM 4-1 header = $220.00
Evo X T.B = $60.00
MagnaFlow cat = $65.00
MagnaFlow mufflers = $150.00
Header & exhaust install = $120.00

Total = $795.00
Est. Hp and LBS. TQ gains = 17% over stock on a N/A motor

RRM pulley = $60.00 (not necessary for power gains)
RalliArt Snorkel = $65.00 (not necessary for power gains)

Next is EVO X cams, valves, and the injectors (if needed) with a retune.

If the numbers that Boosted posted up and RRM was talking about their O.S. & Lancers getting out of the EVOX cams are true, I am hoping to see close to 160 hp to the wheels on the Mustang Dyno, that over the sup. bone stock estimated 106 hp the O.S. makes, is a huge jump. Yeah it is not 400 or 500 hp, but I am not racing this thing just love the extra power she has now, so much more fun to drive.
I also got the EvoX cams on EVOM, from the sale EVOX fourm, for only $50.00 shipped to my house & the injectors were only $40.00 shipped, and Mike is throwing in the valves for free (cause he is awesome!). So I am not breaking the bank over here for the Extra horse power.

I cant tell you how much money I spent on my Evo IX to get every available HP out of her, well yes I can but I would rather not...lol. I will tell you this though, there is no way spending just $1000.00 you will get a 55% increase in hp over stock on an EVO, like I am optimistic after seeing others results, that the second round of installs and tuning will bring on this platform.

To me it is worth it, I drive this car every day and I like to enjoy what I drive and stand out from the crowd at the same time, cause I am a car guy, and I cant change that. I have never and will probably never have a bone stock automobile. motorcycle, golf cart, ATV, scooter cooler (yes I supped up my scooter coolers), go cart, or water craft...its just my addiction.

Most people spend more than this on Rims alone, not to mention tires, or a good set of coil overs will cost you more than a G. So to me it is al relative, the gains for the money are pretty excellent if you are in to Hp, that's just my opinion.

I like doing these things and I like sharing these things so if like minded people want to attempt to do these things as well, they know it can be done or can ask me for anything about doing it.
Hope you enjoy the thred, and I will post the second round of tuning results when I get them done.

 

i'm also a car guy, and i like mine weird. i like cars that are interesting and that you dont see on the road very often - i've had a Subaru SVX and 2 Porsche 928's, and just loved staring at them in the driveway. while the OS isn't exactly a vintage Ferrari, it does stand out in a sea of Rav-4's, CRV's, and Ford Escapes.

i probably came off like a jag-off and that wasn't my intention. i just have a different opinion of this car, and modding in general as i get older. i've spent a lot of money in the past on car mods, some worthwhile, some a waste. when i look back, i kinda wish i had that money back. presently my Evo has an off-the-shelf Cobb stage 1 tune and a Cobb intake (that was probably a waste of money for a cool noise-maker.) as a daily driver, its scary-fast, and i realized i don't need any more power.
i would probably be looking for more on the OS 2.0L, too, but i'm really satisfied with the 2.4L. nothing amazing, but it does the job.


either way, i still enjoy reading the threads and seeing your progress. i just like my warranty intact for this vehicle. good luck with getting it to where you want it.

 

I was not up set just want to let everyone know it was not a crazy amount of money thrown at this for a few hp, that it can be done on a budget which I have done over a long period of time, and some serious research.