At the dealer right now doing the blower motor recall. Asked them about implementing auto power locks. One service advisor says they can and will do it and another says they can't will see... They said they would do it for free. Stand by...

 

Oh! I can't wait to hear if they do it!! That's for posting!

 

Close but no cigar! They were able to invoke the "unlock doors when put in Park" but not implement the rolling lock function. They said it was not an option on MUTS. They also said it might be their MUTS box lacking the right option to do that. So ask your dealer. It was free BTW. I am going to pester Mits Canada now to ask why they can't get this working.

 

Even with the ETACS programs I use the automatic unlocking and locking are done in two different levels and even the sequence is important.
First one must enable (activate) the automatic locking/unlocking in the "Programming by Default" level. This also implies that the doors SHOULD unlock at the event of an impact (collision) automatically (Please see the attached image). I am not sure that this level is accessible for the dealer, since they cannot deactivate the TPMS either (that is in the same level of programming).
Only after can one program in the "Vehicle option" level to unlock the doors at Park position. This is the level the dealers have access to.

 

That all makes sense. As for TPMS it is illegal for the dealer to disable that feature. Plus there would be a liability issue.

I'll let the forum know what Mits Canada says.

(Aside: Can anyone confirm that rolling lock is available on ANY Mits car of recent vintage?)

 

Not in Canada as here it is not even a mandated feature. Subarus (e.g. 2012 Impreza or 2013 Forester), Toyotas (e.g. 2013 Camry LE) were sold in Canada without TPMS for sure. In the States the law says if I am correct that no NEW vehicle can be sold after 2006 without TPMS. The use and the operation of the TPMS is not mandated or monitored (I might be wrong).
Canada is a small market for any car company in comparison of the US, so our dealers get the same toolkits (MUT III in this case) as their southern counterparts.
The dealers here in Canada will happily install winter tires for you without TPMS sensors. With this de facto they disable the tire pressure monitoring. I doubt that there is any liability.

 

I stand corrected on TPMS in Canada. You are correct that here it is not a legal requirement. That said, the liability issue is certainly one that would deter a dealer from acting upon. (BTW, if you do an out of province inspection if your car was originally equipped with TPMS it HAS to work to register the vehicle in the new jurisdiction.)

US - required since September 2007.

I'll take your word for it that the MUT III is the same, but I am still going to ask Mits Canada. I mean if they can unlock the doors, surely they can lock them??

 

Yes, in such a case it might be a problem. However, for the same reason it should prevent a dealer to sell you winter tires on wheels without TPMS (what they do routinely in my province at least)
Thanks for the clarification.

This locking would not just be a simple locking and this is definitely not a kind of locking you want. It should ensure you that the doors will unlock in case of an accident. I agree with you it is worth asking but I would certainly specify in my question whether the doors will unlock upon impact. Good luck.

 

I don't care if they unlock on impact. The thought has never crossed my mind to be truthful as I can't see why it would matter and I doubt there is any such legal requirement. The bizare thing is that the features SEEMS to be there yet not implemented. Heck our 2001 Caravan had this feature!

 

i would like mine to auto lock as soon as i move the gear shift out of park and unlock when it moves into park. ...

like my previous toyota...

 

Or better yet - user can set the speed at which the doors lock. The unlock part I showed you can get today.

 

With Diagbox program the speed is 20 km/h (12.5 miles/h), when the doors are locked.
One of the reasons why you want the doors unlock upon impact is like the following: What if in an accident the driver ends up unconscious. He or she cannot manually unlock the doors. The front passenger (if present) can get out because the door opener in the front doors overrides the lock but only on these doors and the back passengers cannot open the rear doors from inside. By the time the firefighters arrive and cut the doors open it might be too late for the driver and the passengers in the back. Without unlocking upon impact I would have never programmed my doors to lock and unlock automatically. I do not want to facilitate that anyone might be trapped in the vehicle in an accident. One can argue equally that in the case above the doors can jam even if they are unlocked. True.

 

You do know how easy it is to break a window, right? I would stay awake worrying about some scenario that would never happen where the open locks are needed. Regardless, how do you test this? I have no idea if my other cars with rolling locks open on impact. And don't care. YMMV

 

That may not be a great idea...


Take for instance: at a parking lot of a grocery or mall and you just loaded up your kids and started the vehicle to activate the A/C but you needed to still put the stroller (or load up the remaining stuffs out back).
And if a kid either pulls or kicks/knocks the shifter out of 'park', then you're locked out instantly with the vehicle now moving backwards/forwards or just rolling down a grade out into traffic of some sort.

 

The rolling locks on my 03 Caravan activate at 40 kph/25 mph.