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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:04 AM
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ECUTECK and ALKY?

I was wondering how well this worked and how reliable it was? Also is there a way that ECUTEK can run multiple maps or is it just one? Lets say you have you ride tuned on a stock turbo and a 27PSI spike falling to whatever it falls too. If you are out of Alky, can you just turn the boost down and be safe?


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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:41 AM
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Try searching. There are many setups that have safety features like that. The most recent one I read up on is the MAFT PRO with SMC... It's probably has the most integrated safety features I've seen by far in regards to auto enrichment regimes and whatnot.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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I know but I was wondering specifically how Nick with PDT would set this up?


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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The New Edition
I was wondering how well this worked and how reliable it was? Also is there a way that ECUTEK can run multiple maps or is it just one? Lets say you have you ride tuned on a stock turbo and a 27PSI spike falling to whatever it falls too. If you are out of Alky, can you just turn the boost down and be safe?


thanks.
According to Shiv, even with the ECUTek software you can only run one map due to memory issues. With Al's Dynoflash, he's somehow able to run a dual flash that changes with higher boost. I'm really hoping that the ECUTek would have this same feature, hopefully PD can chime in with this information.

If you're out of alky, you can just stay under your beginning spray point as those load points aren't changed.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon H
According to Shiv, even with the ECUTek software you can only run one map due to memory issues. With Al's Dynoflash, he's somehow able to run a dual flash that changes with higher boost. I'm really hoping that the ECUTek would have this same feature, hopefully PD can chime in with this information.

If you're out of alky, you can just stay under your beginning spray point as those load points aren't changed.
Wow Great Info, I amso confused as to go but it seems if you want the best it is the AEM EMS and just have a base map and an ALKY map on the computer and switch when needed I guess.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon H
According to Shiv, even with the ECUTek software you can only run one map due to memory issues. With Al's Dynoflash, he's somehow able to run a dual flash that changes with higher boost. I'm really hoping that the ECUTek would have this same feature, hopefully PD can chime in with this information.

If you're out of alky, you can just stay under your beginning spray point as those load points aren't changed.
FWIW, There is no such thing as a "dual flash". Just a fancy name for a really simple and compromised idea (triggering more aggressive adjacent timing/fuel cells by adding more boost).

-shiv
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
FWIW, There is no such thing as a "dual flash". Just a fancy name for a really simple and compromised idea (triggering more aggressive adjacent timing/fuel cells by adding more boost).

-shiv
This can't be done with ECUTEK?
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
FWIW, There is no such thing as a "dual flash". Just a fancy name for a really simple and compromised idea (triggering more aggressive adjacent timing/fuel cells by adding more boost).

-shiv
Shiv is correct. The verbiage is laughable. Unfortunately "fancy names" sell.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaGuL
Try searching. There are many setups that have safety features like that. The most recent one I read up on is the MAFT PRO with SMC... It's probably has the most integrated safety features I've seen by far in regards to auto enrichment regimes and whatnot.
This is incorrect. It is OUR TTP-Engineering.com meth kit and MAFTPro which has these safeguards, not SMC.

Keep a lookout for a demonstration video on the forum shortly.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
FWIW, There is no such thing as a "dual flash". Just a fancy name for a really simple and compromised idea (triggering more aggressive adjacent timing/fuel cells by adding more boost).

-shiv
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying Shiv.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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This can't be done with ECUTEK?
It can be done with anything (stand alone, reflash, piggy-back, etc,.) It's just a really unsafe approach that takes advantage of people not really understanding what they are getting.

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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
As much as it pains me to be posting on another registered vendor's forum - it also pains me to see other vendors bashing my product with these kind of negative and toxic attacks

Just for the record, I have flashed hundreds and hundreds of Evo Ecu's with the so called "dual stage" mapping to date and thus far there has not been one reported incident of engine failure as a result

As for performance advantages

Member Warrtallon went an amazing 12.00 with the dual stage flash on a car without cams - timeslip and documentation here - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=171522&page=1

and member Dragnracing went 12.07 without cams and on stock cat with the same flash - mods Buschur Race chip/K&N/MBC/Dynoflash/Exedy Twin/3" Buschur cat back with stock cat - http://dragnracing.com/images/Trevor....07@111mph.JPG

I have many dozens of satisfied customers with cams and other modifcations who have also ran in the 11's with the same technology

At $199 for a mail in "dual stage" mapped stock ecu it represents a very big bang for the buck factor and a proven, realiable and hassel free product

Its easy to talk trash about someone's product like Shiv is doing here - BEWARE, etc etc - but the demonstarted experience of the members here with my product and services contradicts Shiv's assertions
Al,
Shame on you Al. Do you want me to explain what is inherently unsafe about relying on a boost controller to dictate minimum octane requirments?
-shiv
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Al- The timing and fuel tables in the factory ECU use MAF for load determination. An MBC or EBC controls MAP. The two can vary differently when conditions like baro and temp change. Controlling MAP doesn't mean that you are maintaining sufficient control of MAF.
 




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