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evorent Apr 20, 2004 12:42 PM

boys! go to GRAVEL TEST {blob} :headbang: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ken8masters Apr 20, 2004 12:48 PM

I raced a 02 Cobra N/A, which is my friends. He ran a 13.3 @ 105 bone stock. My evo is mostly stock, just an RMR intake. My best time was a 13.4 @ 103. The cobra now has a cold air, crank pulley, x pipes, and a dansai exhaust. I did a roll-on at about 20mph in second with him and I as well jumped like 1.5 cars on him, but at the end of my 3rd, he was out like a bat outta hell. It wasn't like he walkd away from me in 3rd, but more like ran away. I finished off all of 4th and he was still pulling away. I can't really imagine what the 03 will do to an evo. 390hp stock, less resistance from only being rear-wheel drive and forced induction. I dont think you could take a 03 roll-on even if you made 300hp to the wheels. That thing is geared like a mutha and finished the quarter half way through 3rd gear. Maybe off the line cause of the wheel spin. I ot a crap load of RMR products coming so I'm gonna shouw my friend up soon. You aint the only one out there getting romped on my Cobra's.

ilumo Apr 20, 2004 12:56 PM

i wish the 03 cobras only had to shift to 3rd in the 1/4, but unfortunately because of the 6 gears, you have to shift to 4th RIGHT before the end. dohhh... that really messes things up.
Also, there is no such thing as a 2002 cobra.. maybe a 1999, or a 2001, but no 2002. For the newer gen cobras, there 99,01,03,04.
If you've ever seen the torque curve for the 03, it looks like a line at peak torque from 2000 to 6000 rpm, which basically means linear HP increase from beginning to end of each gear... wham bam. But too bad they are lards.

Scot Apr 20, 2004 03:32 PM

I went from 88.85 to 115.63.... at the time I had a chip that allowed the car to run up to 6750 instead of the stock 6500 fuel cutoff.... i don't have that any more, so i would have to shift to 4th gear now........ it looks like your car should beat mine by a tiny amount.?

60' - 1.976
1/8 - 8.133 @ 88.85
¼ - 12.441 @ 115.63mph (rev limiter in 3rd)


Originally posted by TURBODAWG
Scot: What is your MPH at the 1/8 mile mark? What is it at the 1/4 mile mark? My Evo goes from 88 to 89 mph in the 1/8 and runs 118.7 at the end of the 1/4. I switch from 3rd to 4th right before the 1/8 mile. I am picking up ~30 mph from the 1/8 mile to 1/4 mile traps. This is basically 4th gear all the way. I wonder how your compares.

Brian


TURBODAWG Apr 20, 2004 05:53 PM

Scot: I doubt I'll ever go to Typhon land, cause I don't know where that is. So I guess will have to call it a draw for now. Ha ha.

Brian

masterevo Apr 20, 2004 06:10 PM

Hey Ken8masters,
As for your case, I think that's alittle too dramatic. I forgot to mention in my earlier post that I also raced an 03 cobra on the high way. It is almost the same case as the one I raced from 2nd. He pulled on me bit by bit as be starting to go into 5th. But it wasnt a run away as you described. The stock evo really suck with the stock boost curve. With an ebc, it shouldnt be so dramatic. An 04 mach 1 has same power curve as earlier model N/A cobra. This Mach 1 is modded with really wide rear tires. My friend with cams ran away from him just like you described that cobra ran away from u. Hahahha.... :lol:

P.S both times my gf is with me and she is 118 bounds. Yea yea...only 118, but every pounds can be counted against you. And both times the cobra only have the driver. :beer:

WTP Mar 20, 2008 10:15 AM

Having experienced first hand, a ported blower & road course tuned, breaks I couldn’t even dream about stuffing on an EVO…475whp Cobra from a roll (few times/different speeds) go down in a cacophony of blower whine and exhaust sounds….against a stock exhaust, methanol injected IX SE it definitely says a lot about the 4G63 and its short gears and stock turbo potential… but, the most important after going past 1320ft, the Cobra shows its bite, and on the track with a proper setup, it lives up to its namesake, the EVO starts to hit the top of fourth and into fifth….the big dog Ford & its gearing and power potential makes it an almost unbeatable. From a dead stop the Cobra will just roast 1st and 2nd….cant beat the old launch control that is unless it’s set up for drag on slicks solid axel, etc. I love Ford’s, but its awesome knowing a stock EVO can give them a headache on the street, with 4 less cylinders. Sorry there are no times on the cars, just a group of friends racing for pride on a road course…and when its all said and done…there a hell of a lot faster than a Subaru.

TurboIX Mar 23, 2008 12:25 AM

Funny thing..The fastest Cobra I've seen was a NA running 12.5 at the track. The SC ones were running high 12s or low 13's..Have no idea if they were stock, I hope they were though.

I was running 12.4 with a Exhaust and Pill removal...Consitant on a bad clutch lol.

Soon2BEVO Apr 3, 2008 05:09 PM

A full bolt on stock EVO with some cams will walk on a stock 03-04 Cobra from a roll without a problem. I raced tons of them with all different combos of mods. Pullied ones with bolt ons are much faster and you will need a heavy load of mods on the stock turbo to hang. I used to have a dead heat race with this local guy's silver 04 which had pulley, catback, intake, and a tune. I had my 378whp setup at the time, he was 457rwhp, we would go from 45-50 rolls to about 125 with it being a dead heat each time. What saves us is that they are heavy as hell. My car was around 3100lbs and I was only 160lbs at the time. This kid was 250+ along with having a 3750+lb car. He used to tell people he pulled me which was always funny, however before I sold my car I was lucky enough to run into him when I just put on the FP GREEN and the methanol. Blew his doors off that time :-)... man I miss that...

EVIL_EVO_VIII Apr 3, 2008 05:26 PM

Ive beat a few modded cobras from a roll with my setup on the stocker :D

TIBOevo Apr 3, 2008 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by CleveBrownsFan (Post 887806)
He posted on Evolutionfourms.com but I cant link it because you have to register...so I'll quote him...

He said...

OK...I have a Dynoflashed EVO with some goodies....produced about 300whp on a Dynapak Dyno.
I raced a Mustang Cobra from a second gear roll tonight....Not sure of the year of if he had any mods and don't think it was supercharged cuz I didnt hear it whine...

From a second gear roll, I pulled a half a car on him then fin 3rd he was almost a car length in front of me

I really thought I would blow him away!!! oh well, better luck next time I guess



Does this sound right?

nitrous oxide is a hell of a drug!

mrdevo Apr 3, 2008 07:07 PM

Old thread but 315whp dynojet will let you hang with one until you shift to 5th if you have a 5 speed..

BadReputation Apr 3, 2008 07:10 PM

actually most svt cobra's are sc'd they run almost 400 hp.. with like 13 psi my friends vs other friends 2003 t/c 279 hp from a dig the cobra will get him only cus he has fwd but from almost any roll past 35 mph the cobra eats ****.. cobras are nice but i dontl ike regular gt mustang owners talk to much and need to be punched. thats just my opinion lil kids with there lx mustang and v6 mustangs

veilside prius Apr 27, 2008 09:40 PM

i raced a cobra coming home from a custom dyno tune a few months ago. Talk about timing!. I had put down 284whp on a dyno dynamics. From a 75mph roll I mashed it in 4th gear and kept up side by side with the cobra until I let off around 120 mph. Side by side the whole time. Cobra had a fatass passenger though and I was solo lol. guess it wasnt the supercharged 03-04

also raced a late model GT with exhaust ( dont know what else ) the other night.. dousche bag thought he was badass and tail gated my ass with both side lanes wide open. maybe cus is till have the dealership paper plates still on he thought I was stock (or he was just a douschebag)... from a 70 mph roll I pulled 1 1/4 car length up to 115 mph. kids and their mustangs ftl

mt057 Apr 28, 2008 11:36 AM

my bosses cobra has about 420whp and 475wtq. It is an 04 with only cold air intake, new pulley ( i think for his super charger) and a tune.


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