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R/TErnie May 23, 2011 07:32 AM

In any case,
you'll get taken care of by Geoff. I think you did a great job of taking pictures.

I'd tell you to buy a Dynasty 200dx, chop saw, die grinder, and an angle grinder...and get it poppin!

Geoff Raicer May 23, 2011 08:35 AM

Apparently there was a mfg change to the turbine housing v-band that Full-Race was not made aware of. The 1.05 a/r v-band extends approx 1/8" beyond a standard Twinscroll T4 vband housing. This is no problem for anyone that does not have A/C. However for all the A/C compatible applications, this will necessitate that we move the vband flange closer to the downpipe.

here are some photos showing the EFR turbine vs a standard Twinscroll T4:

http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset1.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset2.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset3.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset4.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset5.jpg

acssa we will be happy to send you a new upper half downpipe tomorrow morning. n2oiroc, and everyone else who has or is waiting on an EFR turbokit expect a phone call today, we will send you a new upper downpipe. Thanks

acssa May 23, 2011 08:43 AM

One done I will post my complete shopping experience form FULL-RACE and the EFR turbo...

I just need to get this baby runing... no use saying anything now...

More to follow...

acssa May 23, 2011 08:52 AM

3 Attachment(s)
ok here goes the modded down pipe... might loose a hp or 2...

Attachment 288361

oil drain pipe.... 45 deg fitting works with cut of oem drain pipe...put some heaat wrap just in case... will be clamped once installed

Attachment 288362


Looks like the oem oil feed pipe can also work... may even better... if you put a 90 bend fitting it might not clear the flange.... bango bolt solve all this....

Attachment 288363

acssa May 23, 2011 08:55 AM

the oem oil supply has a 2mm/0.08' hole as seen above. I will have to check if that is ok.

n2oiroc May 23, 2011 09:39 AM

Great! Thanks for the fast solution!


Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff (Post 9339886)
Apparently there was a mfg change to the turbine housing v-band that Full-Race was not made aware of. The 1.05 a/r v-band extends approx 1/8" beyond a standard Twinscroll T4 vband housing. This is no problem for anyone that does not have A/C. However for all the A/C compatible applications, this will necessitate that we move the vband flange closer to the downpipe.

here are some photos showing the EFR turbine vs a standard Twinscroll T4:

http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset1.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset2.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset3.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset4.jpg
http://www.full-race.com/prototype/E...sg-offset5.jpg

acssa we will be happy to send you a new upper half downpipe tomorrow morning. n2oiroc, and everyone else who has or is waiting on an EFR turbokit expect a phone call today, we will send you a new upper downpipe. Thanks


acssa May 23, 2011 10:08 AM

LOL... solution on something I was told fits! I am missing something here? I am the guy doing all the test fitting half way around the world in africa...

(Great! Thanks for the fast solution!)

n2oiroc May 23, 2011 10:16 AM

I understand your frustration and agree it not fitting is a load of crap, but i dont think full-race is at fault. During the mfg process companies change stuff to make it easier to machine or cast or because they think it will be a better product and they dont tell anyone. I work in manufacturing and run into crap like this at work from our suppliers. If we didnt have a fully stocked machine shop we would be down half the time.

Originally Posted by acssa (Post 9340168)
LOL... solution on something I was told fits! I am missing something here? I am the guy doing all the test fitting half way around the world in africa...

(Great! Thanks for the fast solution!)


acssa May 23, 2011 10:49 AM

I dont want to blow hot air on the forum... cause I am a strong believer in not becoming big headed... saying I know everything. I work in the motor industry too, I do homologation and safety engineering... We handle about 20 000 units a year... our latest project is the the new Mclaren MP12... so I have been around the block. What really piss me off is when parts is shipped wrong and people are looking for ways not to pay the shipping costs etc, or come with bull company policies to limit their exposure, when they are wrong.

By the way I just heard that JM Fabrication is also busy on a manifold for the EFR TS...
I used a JMFAB manifold on my FP and had 0 issues. So atleast there is more options coming soon... to the EVO lovers.

CBRD May 23, 2011 11:45 AM

We just got word that we will be receiving our turbo shortly ;)

pics coming, of our slip fit long tube manifold ;)

cb

bolio May 23, 2011 12:05 PM

IMO these kits should all be test fitted in-house now that Full Race has an evo. And not just for fitment but for #'s and comparisons. Too much marketing, not enough in-house testing on an evo.

nemsin May 23, 2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by acssa (Post 9340286)
By the way I just heard that JM Fabrication is also busy on a manifold for the EFR TS...
I used a JMFAB manifold on my FP and had 0 issues. So atleast there is more options coming soon... to the EVO lovers.


Originally Posted by CBRD (Post 9340441)
We just got word that we will be receiving our turbo shortly ;) pics coming, of our slip fit long tube manifold ;)
cb

Competition is a glorious thing. Options ftw!

CBRD May 23, 2011 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by nemsin (Post 9340502)
Competition is a glorious thing. Options ftw!

we actually work with JMF (quite a bit) and full race-

we will NOT be building a manifold for production units- these will be exclusive to cars that would be shipped to CBRD for custom fitment of our radiator/fmic/piping for road race applications-

Cheers

CB

JMFabrications May 23, 2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by CBRD (Post 9340626)
we actually work with JMF (quite a bit) and full race-

we will NOT be building a manifold for production units- these will be exclusive to cars that would be shipped to CBRD for custom fitment of our radiator/fmic/piping for road race applications-

Cheers

CB

We <3 CBRD, we work together on many projects, def not in competition with each other.....unless you're talking about Foosball!

CBRD May 24, 2011 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by JMFabrications (Post 9340816)
We <3 CBRD, we work together on many projects, def not in competition with each other.....unless you're talking about Foosball!

ahahahah!!

and of course- any JMF products and information is available through CBRD ;)

so let us know if we can help everyone!

cheers

cb


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