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PATRICK B. May 27, 2011 11:11 AM

Sorry can't see it well in that pic but is the dump tube still entering close to 90* or did you put a small angle on it?

Sorry to see all the extra fab work needed to get this to fit (down pipe etc) but it is to be somewhat expected when dealing with new turbos and the pumbing needed when goin TS......

I do hope you get a new DP shipped out as i'm a bit skeptical with the mod you did to the other..........hope it doesn't negatively affect performance greatly!

acssa May 27, 2011 11:36 AM

That is still 90 deg.... if you want a slip joint and clearance that is how it must be...
So engineer from HATCH said it should not make a noticable difference as it is now.
Even at 15 psi boost...

I did re do that down pipe again today.


Originally Posted by PATRICK B. (Post 9351167)
Sorry can't see it well in that pic but is the dump tube still entering close to 90* or did you put a small angle on it?

Sorry to see all the extra fab work needed to get this to fit (down pipe etc) but it is to be somewhat expected when dealing with new turbos and the pumbing needed when goin TS......

I do hope you get a new DP shipped out as i'm a bit skeptical with the mod you did to the other..........hope it doesn't negatively affect performance greatly!


ScorpionT May 27, 2011 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by acssa (Post 9351227)
That is still 90 deg.... if you want a slip joint and clearance that is how it must be...
So engineer from HATCH said it should not make a noticable difference as it is now.
Even at 15 psi boost...

I did re do that down pipe again today.

15psi at what RPM? Controlling the 15psi boost at say, 3000RPM, not much of a problem. 15psi at 6000RPM, definitely a problem.

Each wastegate flow will impede with the other severely. Unfortunately, with the limited space you have coming up with a way to route the wastegates properly wont be easy. You will need to be more creative and come up with a more elaborate solution. In this case, its not the simple route that works best.

acssa May 27, 2011 10:49 PM

the big question is if a slip join is required... between the gates.

n2oiroc May 28, 2011 03:44 AM

I wouldnt run it without either a slip joint or a flex joint. Im going to be putting a flex joint on one of the sides and run them into a merge collector.

acssa May 28, 2011 10:56 AM

i think I got a way.... just finishing the radiator then I will dig in again at the dump pipe...

Ludikraut May 28, 2011 03:08 PM

Hey acssa, since you have both a 8374 and a 7670, will you have the ability to test them both on the same engine/car? I'm really curious to see what the spoolup difference between these two is...

l8r)

justboosted02 May 28, 2011 10:22 PM

2 Attachment(s)
here is the downpipe I made for my FR T4 TS setup

just an example of what has been done, i do not run ac



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R/TErnie May 28, 2011 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by erickponce (Post 9350900)
I think you can also unplug the crank sensor wich is close to the oil fill cap to crank without starting so that you dont have to pull the plugs.

less work i think

wrong.

If you don't pull the plugs the engine generates cranking pressure and the engine won't spin the oil pump at a high enough speed to build oil pressure to fill the lines.

You have to pull the plugs. I just pull the fuse for the ignition and the injectors.

CO_VR4 May 29, 2011 12:50 PM

You should pre-lube the turbo before installation. If you pre-lube it, and do as R/T Ernie suggests, you'll be fine with a BB turbo.

Don't think about scrimping and neglecting to pull the fuse for the injectors, or you will be spending hours cleaning your engine bay...

acssa May 31, 2011 11:09 AM

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new radiator to fit better...

Attachment 288284

New dump pipe layout.... please see if this is better....before I weld it and stuff up some more good metal...lol

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SmurfZilla May 31, 2011 11:55 AM

Thats a whole lotta piping. LOL

03whitegsr May 31, 2011 02:21 PM

What's the issue with just turning the wastegate down and using two separate pipes?

RevMoto May 31, 2011 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by acssa (Post 9358682)
new radiator to fit better...

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSC00992.jpg

New dump pipe layout.... please see if this is better....before I weld it and stuff up some more good metal...lol

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSC00993.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/DSC00995.jpg

Why didn't you just rotate the waste gate instead of making all those unnecessary bends?

It has been a week already guys and none of you have a running car with this turbo that you all have been waiting months for.

joel3987 Jun 1, 2011 05:06 AM

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