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Blowstock06 Nov 14, 2011 11:44 PM

upsetting to see this glad everyone was okay though!

SmurfZilla Nov 15, 2011 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by uvambo (Post 9746571)
are they Magnesium wheels? looks like it. if so i can see that happening, i seen hair line cracks in magnesium do this before, very little warning signs. she was very lucky. Sad that it happened to such a sweet white ix, sorry about her luck.

edit, if it is magnesium and it did have a hair line crack you should be able to find it or where it started, it will be darker right at the very edge .... just from what ive seen.

I think its safe to say that you will NEVER see a magnesium wheel made by a knock off company. Thats a pretty exotic material for wheels (aka a lot of money). Kinda defeats the purpose of keeping costs down.

alien_sporez Nov 15, 2011 05:36 AM

I work for the engineering department of a large oil company and I know firsthand that casting errors can cause structural defects within the steel. Any number of things can cause those defects (and it's not worth listing here), but the point is that clearly the wheels had a casting defect that caused the wheel to fail when under stress. The point of the matter is that unless the factory has a quality program in place to check for defects before the wheel leaves the factory it's likely these sorts of things will happen.

My suggestion is to get that wheel and have it examined by a metalurgist. If there are injuries, you may have a very solid case for a lawsuit against XXR because of the reasonable expectation the wheel would be able to withstand the usage you put it under.

discogodfather Nov 15, 2011 12:05 PM

There is no cast steel involved. It's all cast, cast/spun, and cast forged aluminum with finish machining. And if you know anything about metallurgy and studied it, steel is completely different from aluminum in almost every possible way. The lattice is of a completely different structure.

Steel yields and can be cycled infinitely at one half of it's modulus. Aluminum has a finite amount of cycles before it breaks, no matter what the intensity. All aluminum parts will ultimately fail. They all have tons of stress fractures after a few years of use, period.

Broham Nov 15, 2011 12:32 PM

That kind of crack won't happen with a good condition forged aluminum wheel or spunrim wheel. I'm betting that is a gravity casted wheel that was not dense enough when made to cut costs

turbotalawd Nov 15, 2011 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394 (Post 9746188)
Then just pick up a used set of stockers. Evo 8 enkies are pretty ugly and cheap. Heck, if you don't like those, get some 9 enkies!

But oh no! Your car might look stock! What a travesty!:lol::lol:

This +1000. Its funny its mentioned that those wheels were bought in order to be used with winter tires but from the pics those tires dont look like winters to me.

SmurfZilla Nov 15, 2011 01:48 PM

The whole story is bogus

EVOizmm Nov 15, 2011 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by discogodfather (Post 9746595)
complete bull****. There is no evidence to put the story with the pictures.

Notice:
1) gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) gravel in the wheel well
3) missing lug nut
4) the wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position

someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. Fail.

Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.

x2....

bnr34rb26dett Nov 15, 2011 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by EVOizmm (Post 9748672)
x2....

true... x3

Fishstix Nov 15, 2011 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by bnr34rb26dett (Post 9749428)
true... X3

/2

danextreyes7 Nov 16, 2011 01:14 AM

bbs's for the win all day!!!!

metalsaber Nov 16, 2011 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by discogodfather (Post 9746595)
Complete BULL****. There is no evidence to put the story with the pictures.

Notice:
1) Gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) Gravel in the wheel well
3) Missing lug nut
4) The wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position

Someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. FAIL.

Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.

Nice catch. The missing lug nut is really interesting.

mshilto89 Nov 16, 2011 05:43 AM

This

Originally Posted by Vivid Racing (Post 9745906)
Save $1000 by purchasing shoddy wheels.
Spend $3000+ repairing car when shoddy wheel explodes.


Live and learn. I'm glad everyone is ok! At least it was a parked car and not a person that she hit : /


This

Originally Posted by discogodfather (Post 9746595)
Complete BULL****. There is no evidence to put the story with the pictures.

Notice:
1) Gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) Gravel in the wheel well
3) Missing lug nut
4) The wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position

Someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. FAIL.

Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.


And fixed this for you{thumbup}

Originally Posted by FJF (Post 9745925)
Actually, it makes quite a bit of sense. Replacing perfectly fine, relatively strong stock wheels with a POS solely for the sake of a look is DUMB. If the owner didn't rice out the car, this would not have happened. Seems pretty easy to comprehend from here.


ever12 Jul 29, 2013 01:07 AM

I think this is more an issue with lightweight wheels than XXRs specifically... XXRs used to be heavy ass POS and then they became aware of the fact that they needed to make their wheels lighter. Now their weight is comparable to Enkei, Kosei, Buddy Club, etc. but can obliterate if you hit a bad pothole, as is the case with those wheels.

dtls14 Jul 29, 2013 01:29 AM

Damn that looks crazy. All bad!


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