First I have no clue about ignition timing but thanks for your help man. But I don't understand why you want me to eliminate S-AFCII? I have original 4g93 wires. And what do you mean: ..."the engine transform."
I went on dyno and they played with my cam timing. Do you think I can use Apexi ITC Super Ignition Timing Converter for ignition timing? Some guy told me that it's pretty good. |
Originally Posted by Mirage2.0
First I have no clue about ignition timing but thanks for your help man. But I don't understand why you want me to eliminate S-AFCII? I have original 4g93 wires. And what do you mean: ..."the engine transform."
I went on dyno and they played with my cam timing. Do you think I can use Apexi ITC Super Ignition Timing Converter for ignition timing? Some guy told me that it's pretty good. Look we move the timing of our car with moving the camsensor we dont have any divice or external ecu for that if you have any doubt this is my e mail felotek23@hotmail.com |
I got no response from him, but thanks for your help.
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Originally Posted by Mirage2.0
I got no response from him, but thanks for your help.
Sorry man ,gona repply you when I have time I dint forgot about you ,I am a little hurry. |
Thanks alot man. Keep me posted.
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Just installed my RRM header and piggy. Can't wait to get the piggy learned and some 91 in my tank, but before the piggy was installed the car dyno'd at 112 hp and 115wtq. Not too bad for a car with only a header and intake. Any idea on if i will fell any difference with a pulley.
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Originally Posted by WADADLIG_OZ
When I had my lancer I had the very same idea of sourcing a G93 ECU and trying it. My mechanic told me that the ECU might not be compatible with the sensors from the G94.
What sensors are you using in your hybrid? The G94 sensors or the G93 sensors ? I should have tried it but I could never get with KillahB to swap out the ECU's WADAD |
Gungrave: When you used '97-'99 turbo eclipse ecu, did it pluged in to your 4g93 harness without any trouble. To make that work, what else did you do (add more fuel & play with timing)? I want to do the same, but I would like to know more before I do anything. Thanks.
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Here are my numbers {thumbup}
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Hmm. I thought that was non-turbo section.
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those are some good numbers comin from the turbo lancers
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new numbers from my turbo auto
HP: 245.6 TQ: 224.7 17psi on mustang dyno!! |
Dang! You have a dyno chart? I'd like to see the curves. Great numbers though! You have a fully built bottom end I'm assuming? Anything else like head/cams/head gasket?
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Damn 17 PSI. I don't think I've seen that on a Lancer
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^^ The only other Lancer I've seen with that much boost was omarboy's 300+ HP lancer and he was running 18 PSI.
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yes....cam, cam gear and all other supporting mods.
stock headgasket is still running strong...no issue so far auto tranny is at its limit right now, probably need a rebuild or swap pretty soon^^ |
wow your the next highest lancer i know boosting @17 PSI congrats
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thanks, Omar...
trying to pushing the auto to the 300hp territory..^^ |
Very possible!
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it might happen pretty soon.....
let's wait and see!! |
Originally Posted by rabbit61319
(Post 4168067)
new numbers from my turbo auto
HP: 245.6 TQ: 224.7 17psi on mustang dyno!! < my auto lancer is jealous. |
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So I have a g-tech and did 3 runs since i've put all my new belts on and new rrm pully, and SRI. I was surprised to tell you the truth here is the screen{thumbup}
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when I first g-teched it, it had 120hp and 130tq
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Is that engine or wheel HP?
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it says wheel on the website and "The Gtech calculates HP from velocity, acceleration and vehicle weight, and then (with knowledge of RPMs) calculates TQ from HP.
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Here is the new number after the 5 speed swap
HP: 272 TQ: 259 pretty much same map (17psi)..the gains are directly from the swap Old numbers from auto (as reference) HP: 245 TQ: 224 17psi.....all done on a mustang dyno |
Originally Posted by rabbit61319
(Post 4629241)
Here is the new number after the 5 speed swap
HP: 272 TQ: 259 pretty much same map (17psi)..the gains are directly from the swap Old numbers from auto (as reference) HP: 245 TQ: 224 17psi.....all done on a mustang dyno |
don't know what stage i am at....probably stage x...^^
i think i am the only one push the rrm t28 kit to this extent |
well i dont know a whole lot about turbo but isnt 17psi a lil high? i see most do like 7-9psi
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17psi, hmmm....
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Originally Posted by eyekyu
(Post 4629303)
well i dont know a whole lot about turbo but isnt 17psi a lil high? i see most do like 7-9psi
stay tuned~:D |
just got back from the dyno.
dynojet 115hp 127ft/lbs k&n sri, magnaflow catback, gutted cats, rrm pulley, dsm 450's, tuned on e85 |
Originally Posted by GoSloTurbo
(Post 4671995)
just got back from the dyno.
dynojet 115hp 127ft/lbs k&n sri, magnaflow catback, gutted cats, rrm pulley, dsm 450's, tuned on e85 |
i had the injectors just laying around and i wanted to do e85 just to be different. i had it dyno tuned just so it would run right again. the car pulls a lot better in the low end after the tune.
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Originally Posted by rabbit61319
(Post 4629428)
it will just get higher and higher....{thumbup}
stay tuned~:D |
Originally Posted by GoSloTurbo
(Post 4672350)
i had the injectors just laying around and i wanted to do e85 just to be different. i had it dyno tuned just so it would run right again. the car pulls a lot better in the low end after the tune.
How much for e85? |
im just going to run it on e85, every other gas station around here carries it and it only cost 2.17 a gallon and its 105 octane.
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Damn that cheap, I wish.
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i never heard of e85.. The highest octance i seen was 93 at gastations here.....
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e85 is a midwest thing. it is 85% ethanol and it benefits south dakota and other midwest states because it is made of corn!!
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Has anyone run a Lancer with E85? I know that when it came up in discussion on the Subaru forums, there was usually talk of modifying the fuel system to use it. Can you just dump it in and go? Last I heard, only the "FlexFuel" vehicles could use either gasoline or E85 from the factory.
Anyone know anything, since I'm mostly guessing? |
i posted on the last page that i have dsm 450's and some upgraded line in my lancer and i am running e85. i pulled 115whp and 127ft lbs. before the injectors and line i was running half and half with out a problem. the only line i upgraded was from the fire wall to the fuel rail because it had the plastic center and e85 does not like plastic.
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^Which dyno? Please post your whole set-up.
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i already posted, but
dynojet k&n sri, magnaflow catback, rrm pulley, dsm 450's, e85. |
Originally Posted by GoSloTurbo
(Post 4682760)
i already posted, but
dynojet k&n sri, magnaflow catback, rrm pulley, dsm 450's, e85. |
These are good numbers. Supposly e85 bumps the power about 5%. But not 100% sure.
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Originally Posted by Shingen
(Post 4682797)
So you are untuned and just running E85 with larger injectors??
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That's amazing. Good to hear that you were able to extract that kind of whp safely with e85. Makes me wish we had it here in VA.
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Originally Posted by GoSloTurbo
(Post 4682955)
no, i forgot to mention that i have an afc neo in it. i had it dyno tuned by the best local performance shop. they only did 4 pulls and everytime it got better numbers. they just ran out of time because they are really busy.
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i do not know, i can find out next time im at the shop. hopefully i will be there this week to pick up my motor for my mirage
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hey you can update me to the list now while im N/A Im staying with the 4g93 intake i like the down low hp so im at 107.23 HP and 121.29 TQ on a dynojet with 93 intake, short ram intake, lightweight flywheel, 2.5" custom exhaust with borla muffler and dynomax highflow cat
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can u guys add me 2 tha list???
Mustang Dyno:98hp n 107lb of tourqe on a 3rd gear pull with an sri |
Well I dont know if you guys will count this or not but hey. Currently untuned (just afrs right and low timing for now) 10psi 16g turbo kit using vdr gave me 188whp and 217wtrq 3rd gear pull.
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Originally Posted by 03lances
(Post 7787656)
Well I dont know if you guys will count this or not but hey. Currently untuned (just afrs right and low timing for now) 10psi 16g turbo kit using vdr gave me 188whp and 217wtrq 3rd gear pull.
ROAD/RACE:apimp: |
Originally Posted by 03lances
(Post 7787656)
Well I dont know if you guys will count this or not but hey. Currently untuned (just afrs right and low timing for now) 10psi 16g turbo kit using vdr gave me 188whp and 217wtrq 3rd gear pull.
That's not bad at all... especially for an untuned setup. You'll see that number jump big time once you get afr's and your timing in check. Try to do your pull in 4th next time. Gives you a more accurate reading as it's a closer 1:1 ratio gear. |
From what i've seen of E85 you can get a little bit better performance as it's like running a high octane. So timing and fuel can be better adjusted due to higher detonation resistance.
However you have to use a lot more of it to run the engine. Thus the bigger injectors. Essentially you don't get the mpg you get cheaper fuel. E85 uses about 20-30% more fuel than gasolene. At the price though you can run 3-4 times as many tanks than gasolene so it does save money. The comment about the plastics is definately right... you've gotta change that line. The other components should work just fine though. Only concern i'd have is the plastic casing for the fuel pump sending unit. In time E-85 may eat it away... keep an eye on that. |
We've been running e85 for a long time now boe :lol:
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Wow... I didn't even realize that those posts were so old. I just read up a few and then a few more and got sucked in. Shame on me... LOL
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What are you using to measure AFR and boost/
ROAD/RACE:apimp: |
Zeitronix and STRI digital gauge. I'm tuning via Ecuflash
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4g94T.. im gunna have to call you out once my cars actually on the street again. psi for psi, not just overall, cuz ill do 30psi just to prove a point. :)
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Originally Posted by 4g94T
(Post 7866976)
Zeitronix and STRI digital gauge. I'm tuning via Ecuflash
ROAD/RACE:apimp: |
Did a dyno run. Did a 0-60 in 11.92 seconds and 1/4 mile with 18.78 sec @ 72.3 MPH. Max acceleration was 0.47 G's with peak HP at 117. Is this average or slow for this car?
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Originally Posted by Seifer780
(Post 8547765)
Did a dyno run. Did a 0-60 in 11.92 seconds and 1/4 mile with 18.78 sec @ 72.3 MPH. Max acceleration was 0.47 G's with peak HP at 117. Is this average or slow for this car?
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Originally Posted by Seifer780
(Post 8547765)
Did a dyno run. Did a 0-60 in 11.92 seconds and 1/4 mile with 18.78 sec @ 72.3 MPH. Max acceleration was 0.47 G's with peak HP at 117. Is this average or slow for this car?
If manual then that is slow. |
Manual but it is 100% stock. Still slow?
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Originally Posted by Seifer780
(Post 8549295)
Manual but it is 100% stock. Still slow?
Different drivers get different results based on shifting ect. |
Just thought I would update you guys here. Almost a year to the day since my last post here been rocking the turbo kit a year now. Pushing 12psi still stock internals, self tuned giving me a best unofficial read at
238whp 244wtrq I plan on gettting dyno'ed this spring or sooner up at english racing |
Hi guys i am from Pr i did 153whp /133tq and with no powersteering and ac belt did 158whp /136tq my 4g94 sohc lancer ES manual transmision did 14.8 at 90mph with 2.0 on 60ft and 15.0 at 93mph allmotor with headblock fulldone
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2005 mitsubishi lancer 4g13 1.3 liter
costum turbo kit Stainless steel mani evo4 Tdo5 turbo tial 38mm wastegate tial bov open downpipe front mount intercooler fc3s rx7 440cc injectors Aem 320 fuelpump stock fuel rail act hd 6puk sprung clutch stock coils stock cam and crank sensor adaptronic 420d ECU car drives better then stock in slow traffic and better on gas (mpg) then stock. anyway we made 167whp @16psi, it had stock 61whp |
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