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Old May 27, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
I like the idea of switching a 9 motor into the 8. Always wanted to do that myself.

Why run an MBC when you're going to tune with a stock ECU? Also, why the stop tech fronts? If you're not going to do some serious road racing, the money would be better spent elsewhere. Besides the bushings, what are you doing suspension-wise? If you don't need to, don't go .4 or even .2 over.

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I love BB upgrades but they are EXPENSIVE. I would just throw on some race pads. The Brembos on the Evo are pretty strong just need better pads.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
I like the idea of switching a 9 motor into the 8. Always wanted to do that myself.

Why run an MBC when you're going to tune with a stock ECU? Also, why the stop tech fronts? If you're not going to do some serious road racing, the money would be better spent elsewhere. Besides the bushings, what are you doing suspension-wise? If you don't need to, don't go .4 or even .2 over.

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Well I will be using an aem truboost to control the boost. The stoptechs are because I need new front rotors because mine were starting to warp and the rotors I went with last time didn't hold up so I wanted to get better ones. The bushings are because the front ones need to be replaced. The only other suspension I have is swift spec r. The block was already .2 over and I already have my .4 over pistons ordered. From my other post I made about .4 over that is the max people would go.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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My bad, thought the StopTech fronts were referring to a BBK, not front rotors. I'd check the rear trailing arm bushing as well. The stocker is pretty crappy and wears out fast.

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Old May 27, 2011 | 05:06 PM
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As far as the motor build its actually between a 2.2 and 2.3L but rounded up you get 2.3, and the 100mm crank is where you get the stroker term from because it uses a longer stroke. The pins on the pistons I believe sit 3mm higher then stock which effectively drops them down as clearance between the rod and piston is closer. With the effective height drop of the pistons and the extra downstroke from the crank this creates the extra .28 liters or whatever it is. Someone please correct me if I am mistaken. I am doing a similar build-
BR 2.3
FP Black
+1mm nitrite coated valves
supertech dual springs
bronze valve guides
ported and polished head
BR BF 272's
coated SS o2 and exhaust mani
ported intake mani and mil.spec 65mm TB
BR TBE
ID 2000 injectors
BR double pumper
ETS 4" FMIC and piping
AEM EMS
and various other supporting mods with E85

So keep us up to date on how it turns out, mine wont be together for quite a few months..
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Old May 27, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
.... If you don't need to, don't go .4 or even .2 over...
I like this advice. I am slightly curious as to whether .040" is the largest overbore size advisable for a 4g63 cylinder block? If possible, I would definitely go with first overbore pistons, if at all possible, myself.

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Old May 27, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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I like this advice. I am slightly curious as to whether .040" is the largest overbore size advisable for a 4g63 cylinder block? If possible, I would definitely go with first overbore pistons, if at all possible, myself.
I made a post here in another section asking if .4 was too extreme. A few people said it was because there may be head gasket sealing issues. One guy said he has been running .4 over for a while and beating the hell out of his car without any issues.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 05:19 AM
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So was it determined that you couldn't use .2 over? I had AMS build my engine with 30K miles on it and we used stock bore pistons, not larger-than-stock, so I'm just curious why you or your builder think you need to go one size up.

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Old May 28, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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its an easy sway i went from 9 to another 9 and made it evo 8 and built it.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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how did your stock set up blow? says your were only running 24lbs?
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Old May 28, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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how did your stock set up blow? says your were only running 24lbs?
Not really sure honestly. I think my oil pump went out. All I know is the balance shaft in the front bent like a straw cracking the front of the block. Number 1 and 2 piston exploded into a million pieces that couldn't be identified as a piston and I found the top half of #2 rod with the wrist pin stuck inside it still on wedged in between the diff and subframe and the whole back of the block behind 1 and 2 cylinders was blown away.
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Old May 28, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
So was it determined that you couldn't use .2 over? I had AMS build my engine with 30K miles on it and we used stock bore pistons, not larger-than-stock, so I'm just curious why you or your builder think you need to go one size up.

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It was already @ .2 over, my builder suggested .3. I didn't know I could custom order these piston ans say a standard option of .4 over so just said what the hell. Maybe I will get a few more tq.
Pretty lame reasoning I guess. Just wanted to I guess also, haven't seen anyone run it so was hoping its uncharted waters.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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About time motor is being bored out today!



Crank was supposed to be perfect but, motor came from diapper i'm sorry, dapper dan. And it has to be turned, unsure of how much.
Block is being bored .45 over. Bored? Is that right? Lol. Idk.
Will post pics of when they finish if I can get by there. I know not everyone cares about pics and things like this but this is my build and my thread. I am ecstatic about it all coming together after almost a year of waiting without any car!
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Old Jul 30, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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I wouldn't run the FIC 1650's it's a low z injector and really for a 16v system. If you need that size go with the FIC 1680 and resistor bypass box we carry so you can run the big high z
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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more like .045
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