HAWT. I purchased and picked up my Stage 1 IC'd kit today, and seeing pics like this makes me wish I could get it installed NOW!

 

IC kit? i thought i taught ya better man

nah, just playing, congrats on the kit. I know your gonna love it. a forced induction lancer is like a whole other car, its so much more fun to drive. first time you hit boost you'll be thinking "holy crap, this is AWESOME!"


a few days back, i did a few 50-90 pulls going uphill (which is quite a feat considering the speed limit is 55 LOL), and this thing really pulls. even with headers and full intake work done, before i couldn't accelarate over 60, it was accelarting like worm. but now, its a whole other story, just keeps pulling and pulling

 

Heh, the offer I got from a local board member was way too good to pass up; got all sorts of goodies, really a whole package deal.

But more power to ya (literally!), more options are always good options, and it sounds like you're doing some impressive things with your setup.

 

I'm hanging out @ RIPP and I'm bored so.............BUMP!

there is a dyno sheet somewhere around here of me making 202whp, we'll try to get it scanned in and uploaded. I just wanted to show you guys that +/- 10whp isn't a big deal at all, on one run the boost could have come on a bit sooner than on others, no biggie

but congrats on the turbo setup man, melaz did the same thing as you: got a killer whole package deal from a board member, so he took the turbo plunge

 

Umm... it's a supercharger... boost is determined purely by the compressor wheel speed which is determined by engine speed.... So it shouldn't be coming on any sooner or later...

 

actually, little stuff would determine if the boost comes sooner or later, like belt slip (if any) also how hot it is, that kinda stuff. i'm not saying the difference in rpm is huge maybe just a few rotations, but that makes a difference up to of +/- 10whp or so.

Nothing big or revolutionary, just trying to point out to folks that there is always a buffer

 

Well I would think you shouldn't see belt slip... heat also will not alter charge rate significantly, it will alter charge density which will affect power etc, but it will still yield 10 psi at a certain number of rpm's... 10 whp is roughly 1 psi difference based on your numbers and with temp and atmospheric conditions held constant.. and since your max horsepower is typically near "peak" boost you'd already be in solid boost build for that charger and thus when things "come on" would have no affect...

Dyno to dyno, run to run, yes there is a lot of variation. Temps of the charge, effectiveness of the ECU and tune at hitting AFR's and other variations will certainly yield significant whp variations. If you are runny piggy, then the stock ECU can also screw with timing if the knock sensor hears anything... but my point was that with a supercharger your run to run direct rpm comparison boost should vary impercetibly unless you have significant issues....

 

But for reference and fun... it's not a supercharger or a Lancer... but here is my Mazda 13 psi dyno.

 

yeah, what you said is more understandable adn relatable

yeah, we are running a PB, i didn't even think about ecu coming into the equation, but thats a good point. thanks for clearing that up

 

sdhotwn, don't forget to mention that those are modest numbers considering what's been done to the car. 350+whp coming up

 

not to mention it was at 101 degrees in the dyno room... and that was my 29th run that series... so uh... yeah "heat soak"??? LOL...

 

alright mazda guys, thats enough out of you

 

good question. RIPP doesn't use an intercooler as you would think of in a turbo kit (fmic). instead, to cool the boosted air, RIPP uses the boost cooler (which you can see in the pics). Basically what it is is a methanol/water mixture being sprayed into the intake pipe (you can see it next to the fuel injector in the 90 degree bend before the TB)

what happens is RIPP's black box senses boost, and once it goes above 6 or 7 pounds, it signals the boost cooler pump, which atomizes and mists the methanol mixture straight into the intake pipe. so you get a significant drop in air temps without losing pressure across an intercooler.

 

Not to mention savings in the weight and space department not having all the IC pipes and the IC itself on the front of the car. A very intuitive solution. It helps keep the car looking more stealth, even though if any other car has their windows open they will hear the whine from the supercharger.

 

yeah, its also semi-similar to cooling solutions vortech and jackson racing use in there kits. in fact, I don't believe many people use any intercooler with the supercharger because of the pressure loss.

but vortech's unit costs a grand I believe (very expensive) and Jackson racing's is slightly different (although if you asked me how I wouldn't be able to answer LOL)