I'm looking all over the net to see a picture with a mani or something in HPC coating in blue... Anyone?

 

^^^^ every car is different. On top of that, there are so many factors that contribute. It's just not very realistic to list spool times like that. It all depends...

 

There is no such thing as high temp blue from HPC (aka High Performance Coatings). You have to get it from a company called Performance Coatings. Confusing I know. Here is a link:
http://www.performancecoatings.com/headercoatings.html

I have no experience with, nor have I ever heard of these guys, I just looked them up after Exciting News made his post.

 

I love that Blue... Thanks for the link

 

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a general rule of thumb i have heard about the twinscroll is it will spool 300-500 rpms earlier. a 2.3l will also spool 300-500 rpms earlier so you can use that to estimate spool.

that is a very general range like the other guy said every car is different and will react differently.

 

Thanks for the info!

I am thinking about going 2.3L Twin Scroll 3071R or maybe 3076R for street/road course car.

I know every car is different, but how do you think the above setup would compare to a 2.0L with green turbo? Spool up wise...

 

similar.

personally i want a 2.3 with the TS HTA 35r for the same duty but i dont have that much money

 

Yeah that would be a sick setup with loads of power. I would go with the same setup, just worried about too much lag while racing.

 

i think the 2.3L with a 40R is the setup

we're working with sean already

that pricing was for the non-ball bearing F1-35R, the ball bearing option addes $600. sorry for the confusion

it is available in other colors, but the black coating is the most durable. The silver just doesnt seem to hold up nearly as well especially on road race or high endurance vehicles that are exposed to high egt for extended time

our experience over the past few years agrees with that!

Twinscroll doesnt necessarily mean it will make more top end power. Twinscroll CAN make more top end power becuase you can run bigger cams. If you run the same cams on a twinscroll vs single scroll test, the twinscroll has way more lower rpm and midrange power, but the cams and compressor wheel usually dictate top end power.

long story short, the twinscrill should make the same peak power, but much more power everywhere else


The GTA 35R chra is not possible to make twinscroll becuase there are no twinscroll housings available for it

I really think the 40R is the turbo that will be the one to use. Its basically an ultra efficient 37R, but becuase its twinscroll it spools even better than a 35R. It comes into boost so smoothly and so strong that even at low rpm it is very responsive and doesnt feel like a 700+whp turbo, even though it definately is.


yes, we manufacture that here:

http://www.full-race.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=1018

thanks alot for your interest. On one of my personal cars i went from a GT37R to a 40R, the difference was night and day. The 37R was dead until boost hit, then it TOOK OFF. huge power increase in a cpl of rpms. The Twinscroll 40R had great power at lowish rpms, and when you rev the engine is just jumped. As you started driving it it would go right into boost, nothing at all like the single scroll 37R


if you are on a tight circuit, or doing any auto-x stuff i would definately recommend the 3071. This would be ultra-responsive and still make close to 500whp, in fact with the 2.3 and a good head you might be able to make even more.

the 3076 is better for a slightly bigger track, or if you want to do some drag racing. It can make up to 550whp with a 2.3 and a good head with very similar spool and response to the 3071 (slightly later, but very very small change)

this will spool about the same as the green, but make much more midrange and top end power.

 

How much sooner will the GT4088R spool compared to the GT4094R?

 

How can you spool a 40R faster then a 35R? That is amazing.

 

I'd like to run that IC on a FPgreen. Otherwise 7k is way out of my price range but, damn thats a nice bit of kit!

 

Geoff, do you know if the TS 35R setup will be able to hit full boost before 4000 RPM on a 2.0L (assume big cams, head work, and aftermarket intake manifold)?

l8r)

 

Geoff i am interested in importing one of your twin scroll kits into South Africa.

As we don't have anything to compete against the AMS importer here.
And he has kinda cornered of the EVO market

we need competition
and if your 3076 twin scroll can come onto boost a quick as a 50 trim we in business

hell if the 4088 can spool quicker than the 35r i am gonna wet my pants
i will we watching this thread and awaiting your results on the test.

hurry up already

cheers

 

"I really think the 40R is the turbo that will be the one to use. Its basically an ultra efficient 37R, but becuase its twinscroll it spools even better than a 35R. It comes into boost so smoothly and so strong that even at low rpm it is very responsive and doesnt feel like a 700+whp turbo, even though it definately is."


żGeoff, don´t you think it´s a bit premature to say that your 40r twinscroll will spool faster than a 35r on an evo? If it actually does and is much more responsive throughout the powerband like you claim, you will set the new standard in evo turbo kits. I have to admit I'm a little skeptical because I asked my friend that owns Cartech(Corky Bell's old business) about true twinscroll setups and he said that the spool up difference is barely notisable(100-200 rpm) on the dyno most of the times when comparing equal setups. But they mainly deal with those big outlaw kits and domestics so maybe there's a difference there.

Either way, the quality of the full race kits and parts for the evo look second to none. But the truth will lie in trap and lap times on built cars, which I can't wait to see.